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rgcraig · #**431** 07-09-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Those rules are not left to interpretation.
People have made accusations & innuendo without any basis for it besides thier own opinion!

Lying is lying! Casting aspersions on peoples character is still wrong!

But, Ron you just cast asperasion on Praxes character. What's the difference?

Praxeas · #**432** 07-09-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

You are being silly Prax!

For someone who is supposedly smart & has a bright mind you either can not see the difference or refuse to.

That is the sad part!

Ron is making more accusations. It's ok for Ron to do. He has a license to make accusations but nobody else does.... Ron will lambast you for making accusations but it's ok for him to do it.

Baron1710 · #**433** 07-09-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

I don't know if that is sad or funny, or both.

It is calling someone a liar.

I don't believe you.

Ron · #**434** 07-09-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

But, Ron you just cast asperasion on Praxes character. What's the difference?

I was making a point.
If I say something--I am accountable.

Those who are anonymous are not.

GrowingPains · #**435** 07-09-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Ron,

Here is my advice. What you are against will not be changing here. We are allowing people to use whatever name they want. There are many, many reason why they do so.

If you are THIS uncomfortable with that, then maybe you need to re-evaluate posting here. I'm not telling you to go, but you are not going to change how we do things around here.

There are things I would like to say sometimes, but as Renda I will not say them - - there's a certain standard that is expected of me and I withhold that standard. It's my choice.

Others have the choice to sign on as whoever and say what they feel on their mind or heart and because of where they are in life (unknown to us) they are not free to say it as themselves, so, they are allowed to do that.

I could say you are being a big whiney baby as Renda or sign on as BlueEyes and say it - - does that really make it for valid or invalid? God knows me either way and I have to be accountable to him. If I accused you of that as BlueEyes and that's not a real name does that keep you from discussing with me and telling me I'm way off base?

I don't think his beef was against anonymous posters, I think he was upset with anonymous posters that come up with wild accusations, and that do not center on ideas, but tend to focus on people. Certainly, he is right that without accountable, human nature tends to be more devious. In the sight of God or not... we stumble more when we are less accountable.

If I'm wrong, he should correct me. I think now his frustration about other issues, though, is being channeled into this one issue, and many are biting on it, stirring the pot even more.

rgcraig · #**436** 07-09-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

I don't know if that is sad or funny, or both.

It is calling someone a liar.

Okay, let's put this on a personal level.

Just because human services was called to your house because you left your children alone does that make you a child abuser?

NO. They had reason to believe there could be an issue - - you are still under watch to prove you aren't, right?

Ron · #**437** 07-09-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

I don't believe you.

Touche!

Ron · #**438** 07-09-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Okay, let's put this on a personal level.

Just because human services was called to your house because you left your children alone does that make you a child abuser?

NO. They had reason to believe there could be an issue - - you are still under watch to prove you aren't, right?

Holy smokes!

Renda saying I don't believe you is saying you are a liar & doesn't take the person's word at face value.

Ron · #**439** 07-09-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GrowingPains

I don't think his beef was against anonymous posters, I think he was upset with anonymous posters that come up with wild accusations, and that do not center on ideas, but tend to focus on people. Certainly, he is right that without accountable, human nature tends to be more devious. In the sight of God or not... we stumble more when we are less accountable.

If I'm wrong, he should correct me. I think now his frustration about other issues, though, is being channeled into this one issue, and many are biting on it, stirring the pot even more.

Thank you!

GrowingPains · #**440** 07-09-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Because saying, "I don't believe you" is NOT calling someone a liar.

If I told you I was at Starbucks yesterday morning, like I was supposed to be, and you confronted me and replied "I don't believe you," does that not at least imply "you are lying." It's not a matter of you not being able to understand, or a preference of ideas, it's black and white.

This would be one area where Ron would be right. If it was about blue skies, then you are correct. I'm not even sure what Prax and Ron are fighting over to be honest.