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[aak1972]

Lets look up the definition of undefiled

[Esther]

Originally Posted by aak1972

Lets look up the definition of undefiled

dictionary results for: undefiled
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undefiled

c.1300, undefylde, from un- (1) "not" + pp. of defile (v.). Originally of morals; sexual sense is attested from c.1450. Physical sense of "not made dirty" is from 1590.


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And your point is???

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Neck,

Thank you. It is refreshing that a man know the difference between lust, sex, and intimacy. I am sure your wife appreciates you very much.

Blessings, Rhoni

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Thanks Rhoni, I have a mutual admiration for her as well.

It transends accomplishments, money, or status.

Most men have it wrong.

They want to earn respect by earning money.

They want to gain respect by authority.

You do not earn respect by actions of responsibility.

You do not gain respect by dominance.

In the christian experience today that is how church authority is often executed.

A man will gain all he needs by love, listhening, caring, showing respect.

The true measue of a leader is to measure up first....

I do not have a daughter.

But what I can tell you for the most part.

Most men would not welcome a man that would treat their daughter the way they treat their daughters mother.

I had a man tell me as a joke once.

"I like my wife chained to the headboard, with just enough slack to make it to the kitchen".

The thing that made me laugh at his joke.

That is exactly how he treated his wife....

Expressing love to your wife does not start in the bedroom.

It is expressed in everthing you do.....

[aak1972]

Originally Posted by Esther

dictionary results for: undefiled
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undefiled

c.1300, undefylde, from un- (1) "not" + pp. of defile (v.). Originally of morals; sexual sense is attested from c.1450. Physical sense of "not made dirty" is from 1590.


Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper
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Any your point is???

Dont really have one. I am just saying we need a history and theological genuis to tell us what dirty was when this scripture was written.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Esther

dictionary results for: undefiled
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undefiled

c.1300, undefylde, from un- (1) "not" + pp. of defile (v.). Originally of morals; sexual sense is attested from c.1450. Physical sense of "not made dirty" is from 1590.


Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper
Cite This Source


Any your point is???

I do not need a book to tell me that undefiled to me means 'pure' and expressed without selfish motive.

Mr Webster print that in your pages.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by aak1972

Dont really have one. I am just saying we need a history and theological genuis to tell us what dirty was when this scripture was written.

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If you are dominating your spouse for self gratification that is defiling your spouse.

If you engage in mutual expression and invested the time and sensitivity of intimacy.

You will find the top of the hill.

If you walk away and feel empty or you feel anxiety.

Then you know you have not gained the freedom of expression with your spouse.

Because you have not expressed deep love before engaging in physical expression.

Physical expression to me has always had boundries because of the lack of intimate expression and spiritual expression.

The ultimate expression in our body, soul and spirit as designed by our maker.

The physical expression with our spouse should capture the expression of our soul, spirit and body.

In the sex charged world we live in today.

Expression starts with physical.

Many of these physical expression's never reach soul and spirit.

When a man and woman join together in a union of marriage.

They should begin to join each other in this order.... Soul, Spirit and then body.

To many young couples don't make it past the first night.

Because the man wants to start with body.

The woman is dazed by the day and is looking to connect in sould and spirit.

I iwill share one thing that I made very clear to my wife on our wedding day.

Our wedding day is going to be filled with the memories of our coming together.

It will be remembered for the laughs and great times with our friends and family.

We agreed that the "big" night most couples feel pure pressure to complete.

Was appointed for another day.

After we had reflection and plenty of good old fashion rest.....

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Neck

************************************************** *******

Thanks Rhoni, I have a mutual admiration for her as well.

It transends accomplishments, money, or status.

Most men have it wrong.

They want to earn respect by earning money.

They want to gain respect by authority.

You do not earn respect by actions of responsibility.

You do not gain respect by dominance.

In the christian experience today that is how church authority is often executed.

A man will gain all he needs by love, listhening, caring, showing respect.

The true measue of a leader is to measure up first....

I do not have a daughter.

But what I can tell you for the most part.

Most men would not welcome a man that would treat their daughter the way they treat their daughters mother.

I had a man tell me as a joke once.

"I like my wife chained to the headboard, with just enough slack to make it to the kitchen".

The thing that made me laugh at his joke.

That is exactly how he treated his wife....

Expressing love to your wife does not start in the bedroom.

It is expressed in everthing you do.....

Do you have a brother?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Neck

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If you are dominating your spouse for self gratification that is defiling your spouse.

If you engage in mutual expression and invested the time and sensitivity of intimacy.

You will find the top of the hill.

If you walk away and feel empty or you feel anxiety.

Then you know you have not gained the freedom of expression with your spouse.

Because you have not expressed deep love before engaging in physical expression.

Physical expression to me has always had boundries because of the lack of intimate expression and spiritual expression.

The ultimate expression in our body, soul and spirit as designed by our maker.

The physical expression with our spouse should capture the expression of our soul, spirit and body.

In the sex charged world we live in today.

Expression starts with physical.

Many of these physical expression's never reach soul and spirit.

When a man and woman join together in a union of marriage.

They should begin to join each other in this order.... Soul, Spirit and then body.

Absolutely!

[aak1972]

Originally Posted by Neck

************************************************** ****

If you are dominating your spouse for self gratification that is defiling your spouse.

If you engage in mutual expression and invested the time and sensitivity of intimacy.

You will find the top of the hill.

If you walk away and feel empty or you feel anxiety.

Then you know you have not gained the freedom of expression with your spouse.

Because you have not expressed deep love before engaging in physical expression.

Physical expression to me has always had boundries because of the lack of intimate expression and spiritual expression.

The ultimate expression in our body, soul and spirit as designed by our maker.

The physical expression with our spouse should capture the expression of our soul, spirit and body.

In the sex charged world we live in today.

Expression starts with physical.

Many of these physical expression's never reach soul and spirit.

When a man and woman join together in a union of marriage.

They should begin to join each other in this order.... Soul, Spirit and then body.

To many young couples don't make it past the first night.

Because the man wants to start with body.

The woman is dazed by the day and is looking to connect in sould and spirit.

I iwill share one thing that I made very clear to my wife on our wedding day.

Our wedding day is going to be filled with the memories of our coming together.

It will be remembered for the laughs and great times with our friends and family.

We agreed that the "big" night most couples feel pure pressure to complete.

Was appointed for another day.

After we had reflection and plenty of good old fashion rest.....

That still does not answer the question about OS and AS.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by 1399

I started this thread.

I have admitted on AFF to struggling with porn-- that's why I come here so as to stay away from the other stuff.


The questions I have prompted or come right out and asked, however, have nothing to do with porn.

It has everything to do with boundaries within a Christian marriage, Christians who decide to set boundaries for others and whether or not they have the scripture to back up the opinions they pass on as command.
.

Actually, I think they may have very much to do with it. Pornography breaks down normal boundaries until people don't know what is right or wrong anymore. This includes preachers who don't know correct boundaries. I think this culture has so much hidden porn that even people who are not looking at or addicted to porn are affected by it.