Donald Trump Calls for Obama Birth Certificate

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Thanks for the response. Sounds as convincing as the other one.

Still don't understand Obama's arrogance in refusing to show "what I want to see!" haha

I'm thru.. Go on to more important things now! (Please understand, I'm not calling you NOW!) Just do it "now!"

Been Thinkin

[canam]

Originally Posted by pelathais

No, pinhead. His father was a resident of Connecticut at the time they applied for his Social Security number, having split from his mother. Little "Barry" was living with his grandmother in Hawaii and his mom was already in Indonesia. A bona fide parent had to apply with the Social Security admin so BO's father did - FROM CONNECTICUT! He then mailed the paperwork to Barry's grandmother in Hawaii.

One was not issued at his birth. I was born the same year as Obama and I know for a fact that when I was a kid, my brother and I were one of the very few kids our age to already have Social Security numbers, so not having one issued at birth was pretty standard then. They've tightened it up in more recent years.

The problem with "sloppiness" here is your failure to actually investigate this issue. I have.

Only one problem" HIS PEL" it belonged to a dead man who died intestate leaving it active and illegally used.

[Seascapes]

I heard on MSNBC yesterday, that the republican party is turning into a three ring circus with the clowns like Beck, Trump, Palin and Michelle Bachman. (Just to name a few). If I claimed to be a republican, I would be a shame to say so. Imagine these clownish folks being the President of our country....LOL I wonder when the republican party will get someone serious to run for the office of President. I guess it is hard to find someone that could stand up against President Obama. The republicans can't find anything else against this man's reputation, to bring him down, they have to keep harping on a birth certificate when it has been proven over and over and over....face it republicans... President Obama was born in Hawaii, get over it.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Esther

You know I am more than sick and tired of the "hate" thrown out every time someone disagrees with you. (you not being just Jermery)

ENOUGH ALREADY!

There are a LOT of people that do not buy into his legit status as an American citizen. There is more that says he is not than says he is. IMO

That does NOT mean I hate Obama. I don't trust the man at all!!!!

Sandie,

I don't throw out "hate" every time someone disagrees with me.

YOU ARE MISTAKEN!



What you and others who decide to keep this lunacy going don't seem to understand is how bringing this up over and over again-- over 3 whole years now-- that this is offensive.Why do some persist in their effort to DELEGITMIZE our President?


There are some that go as far as to make statements like, "... he's YOUR President, but he ain't mine!" But I guess you have never heard similar statements and sentiments expressed.



So yes, whenever I hear someone talking about the birther thing, being the rational man that I am, the ONLY reason I can come up with is that their motivation is out of hate for the man.


If you want to think that I call, "HATE" whenever someone disagrees with me, it's your right to be deceived.


NO OTHER PRESIDENT has gone through such groundless suspicion over his citizenship-- not 3 years of it! NO ONE!

Yet you want to deny that there is an element of hate involved in all of this.


Most of the time, hate is irrational.
The birther conspiracy is irrational.

You are deceived-- doesn't mean you are hateful. The people that keep bringing this issue up, the ones who dwell on it, they're the one fomenting the hate and groundless suspicions for the man as they seek to delegitimize not just his Presidency, but his very identity as an American!


But you don't know why this is offensive....

Whatever.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Sandie,

I don't throw out "hate" every time someone disagrees with me.

YOU ARE MISTAKEN!

I didn't say you throw out the word "hate" when someone disagrees with YOU, this is in reference to those who disagree with the President. Please don't take it personal.

What you and others who decide to keep this lunacy going don't seem to understand is how bringing this up over and over again-- over 3 whole years now-- that this is offensive.Why do some persist in their effort to DELEGITMIZE our President?

First of all, I'm not "deciding" to keep this going, I merely commented a couple of times and if you read what I actually said you might have a different view.
For one thing, for all I really care about this issue, he could have been born IN the White House because I'm not going to ever vote for him.

There are some that go as far as to make statements like, "... he's YOUR President, but he ain't mine!" But I guess you have never heard similar statements and sentiments expressed.

I've never said anything like that. However, I sure heard that alot about President Bush, did you defend President Bush with such "colorful" wording?

So yes, whenever I hear someone talking about the birther thing, being the rational man that I am, the ONLY reason I can come up with is that their motivation is out of hate for the man.

Pardon me, but that doesn't sound like a rational conclusion, especially coming from a Christian. We're not to accuse others of motivations we can't possibly know. Are you able to look into the heart of man? God calls that bearing false witness.

If you want to think that I call, "HATE" whenever someone disagrees with me, it's your right to be deceived.

I never said you were calling "hate" whenever someone disagrees with YOU...but, guess it's your right to be insulting when you wrongly precieve that's what I did.

NO OTHER PRESIDENT has gone through such groundless suspicion over his citizenship-- not 3 years of it! NO ONE!

Yet you want to deny that there is an element of hate involved in all of this.

I'm only denying I can't look into the heart of each individual. I can only go by what the Word of God says. We're to love and not hate, so if I give the benefit of believing other Christians aren't motivated by hate, I believe that to be what God would have me do.

Most of the time, hate is irrational.
The birther conspiracy is irrational.

You are deceived-- doesn't mean you are hateful. The people that keep bringing this issue up, the ones who dwell on it, they're the one fomenting the hate and groundless suspicions for the man as they seek to delegitimize not just his Presidency, but his very identity as an American!


But you don't know why this is offensive....

Whatever.

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You seem to be overly emotional about this issue. I wonder why you addressed this to me while quoting Esther?

I'm curious, did you get this emotional when people were burning President Bush in effigy?

When this rises to the level that President Bush had to endure, we'll talk.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Seascapes

I heard on MSNBC yesterday, that the republican party is turning into a three ring circus with the clowns like Beck, Trump, Palin and Michelle Bachman. (Just to name a few). If I claimed to be a republican, I would be a shame to say so. Imagine these clownish folks being the President of our country....LOL I wonder when the republican party will get someone serious to run for the office of President. I guess it is hard to find someone that could stand up against President Obama. The republicans can't find anything else against this man's reputation, to bring him down, they have to keep harping on a birth certificate when it has been proven over and over and over....face it republicans... President Obama was born in Hawaii, get over it.

You know the world has been turned upside down when I agree with Seascapes.
I have not commented very much on this issue, because I really had not read about it.
Over the last couple of weeks I have been reading up on it and I have reached the conclusion that BHO was born in Hawaii.
On the outside chance that I am wrong, I still believe that you will never be able to "prove" that he was not.
The reason this issue did not interest me, was because it would not have changed my mind about him, either way.
It is not that I personally dislike BHO, but I do intensely dislike his policies.
What this "birther" crowd is doing is letting a smokescreen deflect their efforts from stopping his re-election.
This issue may very well help propel him to another 4 years.
And if it does, the "birthers" will have helped.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Seascapes

I heard on MSNBC yesterday, that the republican party is turning into a three ring circus with the clowns like Beck, Trump, Palin and Michelle Bachman. (Just to name a few). If I claimed to be a republican, I would be a shame to say so. Imagine these clownish folks being the President of our country....LOL I wonder when the republican party will get someone serious to run for the office of President. I guess it is hard to find someone that could stand up against President Obama. The republicans can't find anything else against this man's reputation, to bring him down, they have to keep harping on a birth certificate when it has been proven over and over and over....face it republicans... President Obama was born in Hawaii, get over it.

I think its an interesting debate. Neither side can prove he was in spite of Democrats stating it definitively. If it really was a non-issue, the White House would stay mum about Trump. This weekend a right hand man of BO was on the Sunday talk shows calling him a "sideshow" and that he had "zero chance" of becoming president. Why give Trump any credibility if he's such a clown and a political lightweight?

Evidently Trump has struck a nerve. The White House seems kind of touchy about the so-called "birther" issue. Why so sensitive? Makes one wonder...

There's plenty to choose from that will defeat Obama. Usually current events take care of the elections. If the economy and housing markets are sluggish, if unemployment remains high, if gas prices are through the roof, if prices of goods are high, if interest rates increase, if the dollar continues to decline, etc. Fred Flinstone could run against Obama and win.

He's not as formidable as you make him---politically he's vulnerable. Very vulnerable.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Seascapes

I heard on MSNBC yesterday, that the republican party is turning into a three ring circus with the clowns like Beck, Trump, Palin and Michelle Bachman. (Just to name a few). If I claimed to be a republican, I would be a shame to say so. Imagine these clownish folks being the President of our country....LOL I wonder when the republican party will get someone serious to run for the office of President. I guess it is hard to find someone that could stand up against President Obama. The republicans can't find anything else against this man's reputation, to bring him down, they have to keep harping on a birth certificate when it has been proven over and over and over....face it republicans... President Obama was born in Hawaii, get over it.

This comment coming from someone that thinks BO is doing a good job, give no credence to the comment.

I like Palin, of course, I'm sure you parrot whatever the liberal media feeds you. I like what I have heard on Michelle Bachman as well.

Any that you mentioned would be 100% better than what we have.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

You know the world has been turned upside down when I agree with Seascapes.
I have not commented very much on this issue, because I really had not read about it.
Over the last couple of weeks I have been reading up on it and I have reached the conclusion that BHO was born in Hawaii.
On the outside chance that I am wrong, I still believe that you will never be able to "prove" that he was not.
The reason this issue did not interest me, was because it would not have changed my mind about him, either way.
It is not that I personally dislike BHO, but I do intensely dislike his policies.
What this "birther" crowd is doing is letting a smokescreen deflect their efforts from stopping his re-election.
This issue may very well help propel him to another 4 years.
And if it does, the "birthers" will have helped.

I disagree. I think if there is enough doubt that he has a right to be president will make people look at him a little more intently. Also, if they look at his track record he shouldn't even have a chance.

But some don't really care that he has taken more time off than any president in history. NOT to mention he does not listen to what the American people want.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Sandie,

I don't throw out "hate" every time someone disagrees with me.

YOU ARE MISTAKEN!



What you and others who decide to keep this lunacy going don't seem to understand is how bringing this up over and over again-- over 3 whole years now-- that this is offensive.Why do some persist in their effort to DELEGITMIZE our President?


There are some that go as far as to make statements like, "... he's YOUR President, but he ain't mine!" But I guess you have never heard similar statements and sentiments expressed.



So yes, whenever I hear someone talking about the birther thing, being the rational man that I am, the ONLY reason I can come up with is that their motivation is out of hate for the man.


If you want to think that I call, "HATE" whenever someone disagrees with me, it's your right to be deceived.


NO OTHER PRESIDENT has gone through such groundless suspicion over his citizenship-- not 3 years of it! NO ONE!

Yet you want to deny that there is an element of hate involved in all of this.


Most of the time, hate is irrational.
The birther conspiracy is irrational.

You are deceived-- doesn't mean you are hateful. The people that keep bringing this issue up, the ones who dwell on it, they're the one fomenting the hate and groundless suspicions for the man as they seek to delegitimize not just his Presidency, but his very identity as an American!


But you don't know why this is offensive....

Whatever.

Based on your logic here I would assume then everyone that disagrees with Bush is because they hate him?