Seven Days of Sex... Woo Hoo!! :)

[Esther]

When someone is widowed or divorced and no longer have a partner to take care of their natural needs, is there scripture forbidding them to satisfy themselves?

[Neck]

Originally Posted by George

After 30 + years of marriage, you don't have to convince me that sex is a pertinent subject for couples. The bottom line is the decision is between the married couple and they don't need the opinions of people on this forum who are saying, "No, it's a sin," or "It's ok." That is a decision they have to make. If they are living in fear of having adventurous sex with their partner, they need to get therapy.

You and I may think it is senseless for a couple to live in fear of violating a sacred creed if they have OS or AS, but there are others on this forum who are saying it is wrong. This leaves the scared couple confused and we are not really helping them. They need to seek a licensed therapist. It is not any of the preacher's business to direct anyone's sex life provided it is within the bonds of marriage. Bottom line - the marriage bed is a free place providing the couple are in agreement. It is nobody elses business.

************************************************** *****

I agree it is about agreement.

A couples bed is only undefiled if their relationship is undefiled.

You can't be at odds in every other area of your life and expect your partner to then submit to grandeur.

You first have to be a union in relationship before you can share perfect peace in intimate union.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Esther

I don't think so if you are BOTH in agreement. I think that is what the Bible stated, is that you both give of yourself to each other.

I think Neck has made the best post on this thread, about it being first about relationship. That brings the quality you are searching for. IMO

************************************************** ***

Most of the married men who are addicted to sexual content of anykind.

Fall prey to these lust because they have not built a relationship of love and intimacy with any of their past partners.

I have a greater desire to take my personal intimacy with my wife to a higher level.

That is what seperates me from those who have sex with an "IP" address.

I do not need scriptures, laws, prenup agreements to keep me from pursuing other desires.

I spend my time pursing the intimacy and fullfilment that comes only with honest and pure intimacy with my wife.

Without this intimacy, so many ladies resent their husbands.

So many men resent their wives.

It is why sex to them will never reach to fullfillment in their lives.

They are on the wrong road of pursuit.

We are not to pursue sex but to pursue love......

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Esther

When someone is widowed or divorced and no longer have a partner to take care of their natural needs, is there scripture forbidding them to satisfy themselves?

No. There are definite views on it, but no scripture. The one most often missused is the one about Onan. But this was a totally different contectual matter which I won't get into.

I discuss this in divorce recovery. My personal views are: Self gratification should be minimal if at all. The reason being that if you become accustomed to satisfying yourself then it takes away from the ability for the partner to please you when you re-marry.

For men - since they are visual and stimulated this way then I would have to wonder about what they are using in their mind or otherwise to stimulate themselves for self-gratification. This may be the sin issue. And you can bring up the issue of turning your natural desire for the opposite sex to one of self-pleasing.

Feel free to delete if this is too much for some to handle.

Blessings.
Rhoni

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

No. There are definite views on it, but no scripture. The one most often missused is the one about Onan. But this was a totally different contectual matter which I won't get into.

I discuss this in divorce recovery. My personal views are: Self gratification should be minimal if at all. The reason being that if you become accustomed to satisfying yourself then it takes away from the ability for the partner to please you when you re-marry.

For men - since they are visual and stimulated this way then I would have to wonder about what they are using in their mind or otherwise to stimulate themselves for self-gratification. This may be the sin issue. And you can bring up the issue of turning your natural desire for the opposite sex to one of self-pleasing.

Feel free to delete if this is too much for some to handle.

Blessings.
Rhoni

Originally Posted by Neck

************************************************** ***

Most of the married men who are addicted to sexual content of anykind.

Fall prey to these lust because they have not built a relationship of love and intimacy with any of their past partners.

I have a greater desire to take my personal intimacy with my wife to a higher level.

That is what seperates me from those who have sex with an "IP" address.

I do not need scriptures, laws, prenup agreements to keep me from pursuing other desires.

I spend my time pursing the intimacy and fullfilment that comes only with honest and pure intimacy with my wife.

Without this intimacy, so many ladies resent their husbands.

So many men resent their wives.

It is why sex to them will never reach to fullfillment in their lives.

They are on the wrong road of pursuit.

We are to pursue sex but to pursue love......

I think you and I are agreeing on the same thing.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I think you and I are agreeing on the same thing.

Rhoni,

I knew you would understand.

I know you have most likely seen and heard it all.

That is why I value your thoughts and opinions.

God Bless your support....

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Neck

************************************************** ***

Most of the married men who are addicted to sexual content of anykind.

Fall prey to these lust because they have not built a relationship of love and intimacy with any of their past partners.

I have a greater desire to take my personal intimacy with my wife to a higher level.

That is what seperates me from those who have sex with an "IP" address.

I do not need scriptures, laws, prenup agreements to keep me from pursuing other desires.

I spend my time pursing the intimacy and fullfilment that comes only with honest and pure intimacy with my wife.

Without this intimacy, so many ladies resent their husbands.

So many men resent their wives.

It is why sex to them will never reach to fullfillment in their lives.

They are on the wrong road of pursuit.

We are to pursue sex but to pursue love......

I had a female client who about had a nervous breakdown when she caught her husband self-pleasing. She said she felt inadequate and that she was not needed by him. Her question was, "I am here, why didn't he come to me?"

I did do some education with her/them both and they resolved this issue.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Neck

************************************************** ***

Most of the married men who are addicted to sexual content of anykind.

Fall prey to these lust because they have not built a relationship of love and intimacy with any of their past partners.

I have a greater desire to take my personal intimacy with my wife to a higher level.

That is what seperates me from those who have sex with an "IP" address.

I do not need scriptures, laws, prenup agreements to keep me from pursuing other desires.

I spend my time pursing the intimacy and fullfilment that comes only with honest and pure intimacy with my wife.

Without this intimacy, so many ladies resent their husbands.

So many men resent their wives.

It is why sex to them will never reach to fullfillment in their lives.

They are on the wrong road of pursuit.

We are not to pursue sex but to pursue love......

Excellent post, again, Neck!!!

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Neck

Rhoni,

I knew you would understand.

I know you have most likely seen and heard it all.

That is why I value your thoughts and opinions.

God Bless your support....

Neck,

Thank you. It is refreshing that a man know the difference between lust, sex, and intimacy. I am sure your wife appreciates you very much.

Blessings, Rhoni

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esther

Do you mean other people?

Yes, that too.