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Old 08-07-2008, 08:11 AM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible

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Here is a scriptural COMMAND BY GOD for a man to practice Polygamy

1_Corinthians 7:10-11 & 27-28.

In 1 Corinthians 7, the Apostle Paul differentiates when he is making his own "recommendation" (in verses 6, 12, and 25) and when he is expressing the "commandment of the Lord" (verses 10-11). Indeed, in verses 10-11, Paul clarifies that the instruction in those two verses is the "commandment of the Lord".

With that realized, it is clear for readers of the Bible that Paul makes it emphatically clear that verses 10-11 are different. Namely, verses 10-11, in the exact way in which thay are actually written, are the "commandment of God".

"And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife." 1 Corinthians 7:10-11.

Paul further specifies that that above "commandment of the Lord" was only addressed to believers-married-to-believers. In the next verses (i.e, 12-16), he clarifies that he is subsequently addressing believers-married-to-unbelievers, and that that subsequent instuction is not the Lord's words, but his own again.

Verses 10-11 show that, if a believer WIFE leaves her believer HUSBAND, the

* believer WIFE is commanded of God to either:
remain unmarried, or
be reconciled back to her husband

* believer HUSBAND is commanded of God to:
not put away any wife, and to
let any departed wife return back to him

The key point is that the HUSBAND is NOT given the same commandments of instruction. Only the WIFE is commanded to remain unmarried, but the HUSBAND is not given that commandment. He is commanded of God to let her be married to him, either way!

Accordingly, the HUSBAND is of course, still free to marry another wife. That fact is further proved by the later verses of 27-28d.

"Art thou bound unto a wife?
seek not to be loosed.
Art thou loosed from a wife?
seek not a wife.
But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned;
and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned."
1 Corinthians 7:27-28d.

The Greek text of verse 27 is clearly only addressing married men --whether or not the wife has departed.

As such, the married man whose wife is still with him does not sin when he marries another wife (who is not another's wife). And likewise, the married man, whose wife has departed from him, he also does not sin when he marries another wife (who is not another's wife).

And herein comes the "commandment of the Lord", of polygamy, as in the following situation.

A believer WIFE departs from her believer HUSBAND. She is commanded of God to remain unmarried, per verses 10-11. Her HUSBAND, however, then subsequently marries another wife (who is not another man's wife). The HUSBAND and the new wife have not sinned, per verses 27-28. The departed WIFE then seeks to be reconciled back to her HUSBAND.

In that situation, verses 10-11 show the following instruction as the "commandment of the Lord". The HUSBAND is commanded of God to let the departed wife be reconciled back to him. AND.... he is commanded of God to not put away a wife, including the new wife.

As such, verses 10-11 show that it is an outright "commandment of the Lord" of polygamy for the family in that situation.

1 Corinthians 7:10-11 is indeed a Commandment of God --- in the New Testament --- that, when a previously-departed believer wife returns, her believer husband and his new (believer) wife (from verse 27c-28d) MUST let the previous wife be reconciled to her husband.

There truly IS a "commandment of the Lord" for a situation of polygamy to be found in the Bible ---and it's in the New Testament Scriptures, as well!
This is conjecture, where is the Biblical New Testament teaching for plural wives?

1st Corinthians chapter seven doesn't even allude to what you purpose above. Try to produce the thread of teaching where ADAM, or JESUS had plural wives.
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:14 AM
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Wow.........unbelievable. I guess this just goes to show that you can twist scripture to back up ANY belief.........sorry, Mr. Vaughn, but I refuse to ascribe to this particular brand of "truth".
Brother Phelps, Dr. Doom, hasn't twisted scripture, he just placed a philosophy around it's edges. A group or congregation ( no matter what denomination, even FLDS) would be looking at him with an up raised eyebrow.
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:18 AM
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Brother Phelps, Dr. Doom, hasn't twisted scripture, he just placed a philosophy around it's edges. A group or congregation ( no matter what denomination, even FLDS) would be looking at him with an up raised eyebrow.
Point well taken, EB.

I must confess, apparently I'm not educated enough to recognize the philosophy around that scripture, because in all of my 46 years of being in Bible Studies, and Bible College, and preaching and pastoring, I've read that passage hundreds of times, and NEVER ONE TIME did "POLYGAMY" jump out at me!

I'm so ashamed of my denseness.......
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Get out of town! You guys have been going pages such vague evidence?

A bishop should be the husband of one wife?

Does your flawed cult hermeneutic work when applied to other similar verses?

1Ti 5:9

"Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been THE WIFE OF ONE MAN"


If we follow your erroneous cult hermeneutic, then we can say that women had plural wives?

PROVE IT WITH SCRIPTURE CHAPTER AND VERSE DR.DO-LITTLE.
Evangelist, I would caution to please dont go to the gutter here.. should you disagree with someone, please present your argument respectfully as becoming Christians rather than name calling and tactics of the world.... blessings
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Here is a scriptural COMMAND BY GOD for a man to practice Polygamy

1_Corinthians 7:10-11 & 27-28.

In 1 Corinthians 7, the Apostle Paul differentiates when he is making his own "recommendation" (in verses 6, 12, and 25) and when he is expressing the "commandment of the Lord" (verses 10-11). Indeed, in verses 10-11, Paul clarifies that the instruction in those two verses is the "commandment of the Lord".
Well, look at those four sentences and you didn't say anything? Yep, you went to college, Law School
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:22 AM
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Wow.........unbelievable. I guess this just goes to show that you can twist scripture to back up ANY belief.........sorry, Mr. Vaughn, but I refuse to ascribe to this particular brand of "truth".
It is your American Right Bro. Phelps and I respect your argument.....

However, you fail to even acknowledge that PAUL commands a husband to allow his wife to return to him even if he has remarried another.... this is what we call POLYGAMY
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It is your American Right Bro. Phelps and I respect your argument.....

However, you fail to even acknowledge that PAUL commands a husband to allow his wife to return to him even if he has remarried another.... this is what we call POLYGAMY
Huh? Where is that command?

And wasn't there a prohibition in the OT that prevented spouses from returning to one another after a divorce, at least, not if they had remarried?
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I wonder why?
???? I am used to all the qoutes being included. Not sure your point!
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Huh? Where is that command?

And wasn't there a prohibition in the OT that prevented spouses from returning to one another after a divorce, at least, not if they had remarried?
only if they had remarried... in the NT Paul commands that the husband take back his first wife....

"And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife

The husband is commanded not to put her away if she returns unto him...... no matter what his current wife has to say about it
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Evangelist, I would caution to please dont go to the gutter here.. should you disagree with someone, please present your argument respectfully as becoming Christians rather than name calling and tactics of the world.... blessings

Listen just like Jesus, Peter, and Elijah, I respond to you just as they did.
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