Has evolutionism become a leading religion?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Prax, Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created....the earth". Its not that difficult, that tells us where the earth comes from and when it was created.

So you agree the earth was created before the first day?

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by DAII

So millions of solar "years" ... a another unit we use today ... could have transpired from morning to evening ... of course without sun or moon to help in distinguishing both morning and evening ....

Dan, what from the TEXT of Genesis causes you to suggest millions of years? Are not scientific claims what causes you to come to this conclusion?

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So you agree the earth was created before the first day?

No, I don't agree.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by coadie

You caught it also.

11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The way it was listed is that the creation of the earth is within the 6 days.

Heaven earth sea and contents. Not very complex scripture to understand. They still need an interpretor and I don't.

Speaking of "interpreters," just what are the "6 languages" that you speak at home? You should be able to rattle off the list rather quickly, I would think. Yet you refuse to even address your own fraudulent claims.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Prax, Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created....the earth". Its not that difficult, that tells us where the earth comes from and when it was created.

He has a brain block on that verse.

The atheists/evolutionists can't comment on the origin of energy and matter.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

I would say it is less than 10,000 year old. Personally I would say just over 6,000 years old.

Let's shoot for 8000 then

So if archeologists found a bone that was buried years ago...before the flood, are you saying they can't possible date it to 7000 years no matter how advanced our science is? Mind you, dating isn't just used in archeology but is also used in forensics. You are discounting a science that is used in archeology by anthropologists including biblical anthropologists that dig up biblical sites and date them using chemical analysis

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

No, I don't agree.

Then you are interpreting the text. So tell me on which day did God say "let there be an earth"? Because every creative act is proceeded by "And God said Let"...which verse is the globe, the planet created?

I see "the earth was without void"...I see "the Spirit moved on the waters"...then I see in verse 6 God forming dry land in waters that already existed.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So you agree the earth was created before the first day?

11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Then you are interpreting the text. So tell me on which day did God say "let there be an earth"? Because every creative act is proceeded by "And God said Let"...which verse is the globe, the planet created?

I see "the earth was without void"...I see "the Spirit moved on the waters"...then I see in verse 6 God forming dry land in waters that already existed.

11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by pelathais

So then they can't be used for dating purposes then, can they?

In fact, one would have to conclude that the author (who knew he was "skipping" generations) never even intended that the genealogies be used as such.

I wouldn't say they can't be used for dating purposes. I would be open to the possibility that we cannot nail down the age of the earth to the year through geneologies, though I'm not saying its all together impossible.

I certainly think geneologies are helpful for dating. Particularly the one in Genesis 5, and the 11 chapters worth in Chronicles.


Irregardless there is a HUGE difference between the thousands of years and the millions of years were talking about here, which isn't answered if someones great grandparent isn't mentioned in a list on geneologies.

Furthermore, the Bible itself warns of endless discussions on geneologies. So appearently Paul, under inspiriation of God, knew that there would be attacks waged on God's word through geneologies. Not saying your particularly attacking His Word thorugh geneologies, just that I don't think its a slam dunk point, or even all that relevant.