Question about Acts 2:38: What about the martyrs?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

excellent--then, since your peers have deigned to not touch upon why the priest is justified in telling the Good Samaritan why he is lost, perhaps you might like to take a whack at it.

That is a statement stemming from circular reasoning.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

How can ego enter into it when salvation is of God with nothing for us to boast of?

see that it is a type of boasting to say "Muslims are lost."

Originally Posted by mfblume

You judge and say don't judge. You accuse of what you call hard hearts and then say you don't judge hearts.

the difference being that i speak to my own nation, whose sins i share in, and allow that there is forgiveness for us, which you would not afford the Good Samaritan.

Originally Posted by mfblume

You confuse the whole word with a people who practice salvation by works saying they can be saved while we're lost. You determine who is hell bound, not the word.

you might read this; or you might answer the priest, from the Good Samaritan's pov. See that i have already admitted that i should be doing what the GS is doing, and not saying a word, as i will get no benefit from this, and will most likely just get trampled. As i have already admitted, your saying that Muslims are lost will not send them to hell, and neither will any of my pointless declarations save them, or condemn you. I did not determine that the Good Samaritan was accepted, i merely pointed it out.

Originally Posted by mfblume

You're not even trying. You purposely talk past others. You focus on what is a given to everyone here.

Enjoy yourself.

i apologize for that, but see that i can make the same accusation toward you. i answer you line by line, but you bring up posts that have already been clarified, and skip parts that do not fit with your perceptions. And surely it is you that is more comfortable here, among those who agree with you, and so should be experiencing the more enjoyment.

If i am focusing "on what is a given to everyone here," then the Good Samaritan's answer to the priest's accusation of "you are lost, if you deny this Scripture here" should be no problem for you. Answer that one thing, and we can move on.

[shazeep]

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

That is a statement stemming from circular reasoning.

pray explain why, rather than have me drag it from you then.

[shazeep]

and explain as if to a child; in a paragraph or less.

[phareztamar]

Shazeep,

pray forgive this intrusion into your arguement with the honorable elder Bloom. I've beeen on the sidelines watching. For my two cents, it seems that your arguement is with my Lord, and not with the good pastor. My Lord wrote the book, not him. From my first book: let us say that the scriptures require each to wear one red sock, and one blue sock, in order to be saved. Then further imagine that mother Teresa...God rest her soul...failed to do so in her labors of love in Calcutta. Will my Lord give her a pass because of her tremendous efforts in India? Neither pastor Bloom, nor you can say. He alone is the righteous judge of mens souls. But in the mean time, what shall we preach and teach? For us here, we'll be wearing a red sock and a blue sock, and urging others to do the same. Why? Because the scriptures tell us that such is required for salvation. We are not in the business of condemning anyone to hell, but only in showing them the truths of rightly divided scripture.

[shazeep]

gotta love that. It is a completely different frame of mind. Even if it seems like an insignificant distinction.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok well you guys just do your best to make this about anything other than your hard hearts. i never denied that you might have perfect Scriptural indications for why Muslims are lost. All of them. Every single one. Now, you can latch onto that, and pretend I'm agreeing with you if you like.

Then, when one of them is in heaven, and you are in hell, because your heart has been judged, all of those passages in the Bible that you just skip over, because after all they apply to someone else, might become clearer. I get no benefit from coming here--i am aware of your doctrine already. Keep searching for passages to imply that your position is correct--you will find them!

Funny? I have yet to see you prove anything you believe with scripture. You are like a religious Peter Joseph, or a Churchinized Anonymous with a Jesus Mask instead of Guy Fawkes.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ISIS cuts off heads.

Know any police who cut off heads?

Don't ever stop an officer even for directions, because if you would post this garbage then you shouldn't ever ask for their assistance. For any reason. You are a hater.

[Evang.Benincasa]

There is a ordinance in the City of Fort Lauderdale NOT to feed the homeless downtown, Would you like to know why? Because they cause violence, use the area in front of the downtown library as a toilet. They are homeless because they like to drink, and do drugs. You feed them you aren't helping the situation. Here in Fort Lauderdale you can become obese with all the available services Broward County has available. We have x-homeless in our church, and they are x because they sought Jesus Christ, and not a baloney sandwich given by a Presbyterian who KNOWS better then to go downtown and feed the drug addicts.