07-14-2007, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Chewy
There are words and phrases in the latin-based languages that are so much more beautiful and descriptive.
I was thinking, what language are we going to use in Heaven? Will those poor hispanics be required to walk the streets of gold and gather around the throne with those little interpretation headphones in their ears?
Maybe the white pastors who insist that Spanish speaking people to wear those in their services opposed to giving them a church of their own or who disregarded them will be punished and have english (KJV-english would even be better) translated into headphones of their own in heaven throughout all eternity. 
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Personally, I think we'll all have huge throbbing foreheads and communicate telepathically like the mutants in Beneath the Planet of the Apes.
But seriously, your post seems to reveal some sort of underlying resentment against "white preachers" or perhaps just a specific group of "white preachers." In my experience, and I've lived among Hispanics all of my life, there are many who want to "conform" to the Anglo society in Norte America and appreciate using the the translation systems as their English skills develop. They are especially keen to have their children in the classes and playing with English speaking kids.
In every church I've been in, there was always a painful time when the Spanish language group got big enough to be on their own. Many of the Spanish speakers refused to part with the "white preachers" (or black, or whatever). This often led to a few within the Spanish language group trying to apply unfair and even racist pressure to get all of the Spanish speaking people to line up together.
When you work and live among the Hispanic population in the Southwest U.S. you are often surprised by the overt racism found in the community. Outright hatred is very prevalent and is exploited by some politicians. As a "white kid" growing up, at first I thought that only whites could be so prejudiced. But interaction with other cultures shows the problem to be a real human problem.
One thing that effects the Spanish churches around here is that until recently most Spanish surnamed Apostolics were the descendants of Spanish colonists – and their ancestors were never Mexican citizens and never thought of themselves as “Mexicans.”
Most of the old Spanish families in the region settled here in Pre-Mexican independence times to escape prejudice from their Catholic compatriots. This whole region was considered a neglected backwater by the recently created Mexican government, leading to most of their problems in losing control of the land.
The vast majority of Spanish speaking people in the region during the 1820's - 1840's favored separation from Mexico. Spanish speaking people around here considered "Mexicans" to be "corrupt," "dirty" and "lazy." That's where that particular stereotype came from, not from "Anglos."
These Spanish families were mostly secret Protestants or Crypto-Jews (Conversarios). Some of my friends had grandmothers who would set a Seder table every Easter Sunday, complete with the Elijah cup- and no one really knew why or what the whole thing meant. They would have been killed for doing that under Spanish and Mexican law.
Even today when they say, “We’re not Mexican-Americans, we’re Spanish-Americans…” they are attacked and falsely accused of “denying” their Mexican ancestry. That these brethren have suffered 500 years of abuse and racism from all sides, and yet they keep a very proud and noble past alive is a testament to the strength of the human spirit – and the importance of the Holy Spirit!
Last edited by pelathais; 07-14-2007 at 09:36 PM.
Reason: translated from bad english to so-so
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