Charlottesville, Trump, GOPe and Pentecostals

[aegsm76]

All,
Everyone is focusing on the violence, which is just what the media and politicians want you to do.
However, we are ignoring the real "elephant" in the room.
After listening to many on both sides, a passage came to my mind yesterday:

15 The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea, four things say not, It is enough:
16 The grave; and the barren womb; the earth that is not filled with water; and the fire that saith not, It is enough.
17 The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it.

This perfectly describes those who are now crying to remove anything that disagrees with their personal beliefs.
They will never be satisfied.
We are already seeing a pastor in Chicago wanting a monument to George Washington removed and streets renamed.
It will never end.
Until eventually the Bible will be officially declared a hateful book, because it "endorsed" slavery.
You can find something odious about every person in American history.
There is none good, no not one.
According to our current definition of "racist", Abe Lincoln was one.
MLK was an adulterer.
As was JFK.
Do their monuments need to come down?
The White House was built by both slaves and non-slaves, does it need to come down.
This is where we are headed unless the nonsense stops.
And I do not see it stopping.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

All,
Everyone is focusing on the violence, which is just what the media and politicians want you to do.
However, we are ignoring the real "elephant" in the room.
After listening to many on both sides, a passage came to my mind yesterday:

15 The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea, four things say not, It is enough:
16 The grave; and the barren womb; the earth that is not filled with water; and the fire that saith not, It is enough.
17 The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it.

This perfectly describes those who are now crying to remove anything that disagrees with their personal beliefs.
They will never be satisfied.
We are already seeing a pastor in Chicago wanting a monument to George Washington removed and streets renamed.
It will never end.
Until eventually the Bible will be officially declared a hateful book, because it "endorsed" slavery.
You can find something odious about every person in American history.
There is none good, no not one.
According to our current definition of "racist", Abe Lincoln was one.
MLK was an adulterer.
As was JFK.
Do their monuments need to come down?
The White House was built by both slaves and non-slaves, does it need to come down.
This is where we are headed unless the nonsense stops.
And I do not see it stopping.

Do you feel helpless?

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Do you feel helpless?

No.
My hope is not in this world.
And we war not against flesh and blood.
I am amazed that those who cannot see that all of this is just a distraction.
Aimed at setting us against each other.
And somewhere, George Soros and Satan are laughing together.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The "alt-right" was invented by leftists and Occupoopers who suddenly "switched" when Trump came on the scene. Imagine that.

Prove this-- because this is the first time that I have read that today's hate-driven "alt-right" are yesterday's millenials who were roundly criticized HERE and other places for being "too young to realize the evils of socialism".

Originally Posted by Esaias

Antifa is anti-white and anti-freedom, its communists and anarchists, funded by Soros and others.

AntiFa is predominantly white. They are not anti-freedom. They do not have a platform that advocates for anarchy. "Funded by Soros" is a favorite criticism of conservatives to launch against any organization that goes against their worldview.

Originally Posted by Esaias

BLM is anti-white. You CLEARLY have ignored their actual statements and actions.

BLM has a YUUUUGE amount of white people who join in our pursuit of equal treatment under the law-- that is not what is happening right now and yes there is an organization devoted to bringing more attention to what has been happening.

Originally Posted by Esaias

Would you say the same about a group called White Lives Matter? Case closed.

Brother, really? All this time here, do you really think I would be that racist? If white people appeared to be routinely roughed up or killed by the police unnecessarily more so than blacks, then I would support that cause.

BLM is not about race. It is about justice and they have spoken out in cases where white people were unnecessarily roughed up or killed by the police as well. Still the name is Black Lives Matter because of the continued high-profile, seemingly unnecesary killing of blacks in America at the hands of cops.

Originally Posted by Esaias

Hook in your jaw, you go where the establishment leads you. Take the red pill.

Is Sen. Ted Cruz part of the establishment?

Originally Posted by Esaias

White people leaving BLACK ORGANISATIONS? Do you even read why you type? Think about it, please.

Will you explain what you mean here? Did they not leave these organizations, founded and headed by black preachers?

Originally Posted by Esaias

The tasteless comments come from all sides. You are color blind, meaning you don't see the vitriol coming from the self-created "colored section".

I never said they didn't-- but in the context of this thread, in the context of the thread I first brought this up on, and in the context of the articles I was reading, the problem and the implications were real. When I brought up my perceived increase in VOCALLY RACIST people, I was told back then that they were, "probably bots".

Originally Posted by Esaias

Most people? Lol. More of the fake narrative. Winston Smith is calling on line two.

Whatever bro.

Originally Posted by Esaias

No politician is sincere, about anything, except taking your money and running your life.

The rest is irrelevant.

I disagree here as well. Some people are sincerely wrong or sincerely misguided, but that doesn't negate their sincerity.

[Jermyn Davidson]

There are a relative FEW people who are "honored" and actually WAGED WAR AGAINST AMERICA in order to further slavery-- for economic and/or for racial supremacist views.

So no, Mt. Rushmore doesn't need to come down.

Bringing up President Kennedy, MLK, and others for their PERSONAL moral failures is a miserable attempt to lump "all of those good but flawed men" into one basket.

This is what happens when people honor evil people and try to present their perversion of history in a positive light.

Why would any Christian say there is anything honorable about Robert Lee?

That is a dishonest thing to do-- given the gravity of TREASON AND MURDER and the effects it has on so many, many people.

[Praxeas]

Please no personal comments.
Please provide links to news stories or other sites that corroborate assertions

Thanks

[n david]

Actually, facts have shown more whites have died from police than blacks. It's just the media and black activists have created the false narrative that blacks are the most killed.

[Evang.Benincasa]

JD, I was traveling across Florida from one church to the next. My wife and daughters were asleep in the back seat. I was pulled over, and the officer was going to let us move on but saw my wrists are all tattooed. I'm use to that reaction from police. Also learned to be super cool when and If I'm pulled over.

But some people aren't super cool, some people react instead of respond.

Bad things happen, to both white, black, yellow, brown, whatever the melanin may be. Everyone gets into situations, no one is exempt.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

There are a relative FEW people who are "honored" and actually WAGED WAR AGAINST AMERICA in order to further slavery-- for economic and/or for racial supremacist views.

So no, Mt. Rushmore doesn't need to come down.

Bringing up President Kennedy, MLK, and others for their PERSONAL moral failures is a miserable attempt to lump "all of those good but flawed men" into one basket.

This is what happens when people honor evil people and try to present their perversion of history in a positive light.

Why would any Christian say there is anything honorable about Robert Lee?

That is a dishonest thing to do-- given the gravity of TREASON AND MURDER and the effects it has on so many, many people.

JD, talking the way you do, you aren't going to win any friends and influence any people except maybe the folks at the local Black Power Revolutionary Uprising Committee or the liberal SJW zombies at some college.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

There are a relative FEW people who are "honored" and actually WAGED WAR AGAINST AMERICA in order to further slavery-- for economic and/or for racial supremacist views.

So no, Mt. Rushmore doesn't need to come down.

Bringing up President Kennedy, MLK, and others for their PERSONAL moral failures is a miserable attempt to lump "all of those good but flawed men" into one basket.

This is what happens when people honor evil people and try to present their perversion of history in a positive light.

Why would any Christian say there is anything honorable about Robert Lee?

That is a dishonest thing to do-- given the gravity of TREASON AND MURDER and the effects it has on so many, many people.

What do you know of Robert E Lee?