Is Jesus Christ The Man Jesus Christ Now ?

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Bishop S. C. Johnson taught there is NO Son of God Now he had a pamphlet on it.
Some in the area I was raised in believed this. However the Bible clearly says He is the most certainly the Son now and as Son He is our Great High Priest.
The late R.C. Cavaness used to say we need a High Priest in the Church as bad as we needed a Saviour in the world. I believe it.

Amen. Hebrews clearly teaches this, but Hebrews is heavy meat, so not much studied.

The work on the cross was for salvation, similar to Moses' work in getting Israel out of Egypt. But the work presently occurring in heaven by Christ as High Priest is far beyond that, and similar to JOSHUA to GET US INTO THE MOST HOLY PLACE, spiritually speaking, where we overcome things in life. Most are satisfied with being out of Egypt. And they never overcome much. But the priesthood occurring NOW is intercession intended to see us overcome.

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

We know that Jesus Christ was God manifested in Human Flesh ,He was The Only Begotten Son Of God.
We know that He was crucified on the cross ,and He was buried and rose again the third day.
He arose bodily and ascended into Heaven so does Jesus Christ possess a Human body now ?
Some statements of faith ,read like this they say we believe Jesus Christ is both God and Man ,The God Man or something to that effect so is Jesus Christ the man Christ Jesus now Since He has a Spiritual Body now ?

I believe he told Mary not to touch him in the Garden. He ascended and then appeared unto the 12.

Thomas then touched him and felt the nail prints.

Does having a human body then glorified erase the human form?

I believe he is Body and Spirit.

We will be the same and still maintain our human form.

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Amen. Hebrews clearly teaches this, but Hebrews is heavy meat, so not much studied.

The work on the cross was for salvation, similar to Moses' work in getting Israel out of Egypt. But the work presently occurring in heaven by Christ as High Priest is far beyond that, and similar to JOSHUA to GET US INTO THE MOST HOLY PLACE, spiritually speaking, where we overcome things in life. Most are satisfied with being out of Egypt. And they never overcome much. But the priesthood occurring NOW is intercession intended to see us overcome.

Just because his sonship is complete, does not imply he has no human form.

We will see the son sitting upon the throne in the office of Judge.

The office does not erase the substance or form of God.

In Jesus dwells the "Fullness" of the Godhead Bodily.

The completeness of God dwells in the form of Jesus.

His glorified Body did not shed the skin of the human form.

Also we are complete in him....

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Just because his sonship is complete, does not imply he has no human form.

Exactly! It's just glorified and immortal human form. But still human. What would Adam have been like had he not sinned? Immortally human.

We will see the son sitting upon the throne in the office of Judge.

The office does not erase the substance or form of God.

In Jesus dwells the "Fullness" of the Godhead Bodily.

The completeness of God dwells in the form of Jesus.

His glorified Body did not shed the skin of the human form.

Also we are complete in him....

Amen and amen,

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt

We will be the same and still maintain our human form.

Amen.

Phi 3:21 KJV Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Will we cease to be human when our bodies are changed and fashioned like unto his? I think not. We awill not be FALLEN HUMANITY, but humanity as God originally intended it!

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Amen.

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Will we cease to be human when our bodies are changed and fashioned like unto his? I think not. We awill not be FALLEN HUMANITY, but humanity as God originally intended it!

Amen. It makes me tired. When some ministers try to make it more than it is....

I am waiting for one of these guys to start a new religion...

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Amen. It makes me tired. When some ministers try to make it more than it is....

I am waiting for one of these guys to start a new religion...

Especially when it's all right there in Hebrews!!!! Maybe people think it's easier to start a new religion than read the book of Hebrews carefully.

[Steve Epley]

I don't know about this "human" body stuff. Sown a natural body raised a spiritual body. Yet a body but a glorified body it seems to me in the change it loses it's humaness? Yes a literal body like Christ body that resurrected but I really wonder if it could be termed "human?" Seems celestial to me??? Looks like a human body but I think human might not be the word? I know it seems a play on words but just some thoughts.

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I don't know about this "human" body stuff. Sown a natural body raised a spiritual body. Yet a body but a glorified body it seems to me in the change it loses it's humanness? Yes a literal body like Christ body that resurrected but I really wonder if it could be termed "human?" Seems celestial to me??? Looks like a human body but I think human might not be the word? I know it seems a play on words but just some thoughts.

It must be a human body because we are human beings who were originally intended to be immortal in such a spiritual body. Spiritual bodies are still physical. They're just adapted to immortal existence.

Human beings are what the Greek terms an "ANTHROPOS". A man is a human being. ANTHROPOS. We get the terms Anthropomorphic from it. And Jesus resurrected with an immortal spiritual body. Would we not say THAT is still human? Jesus STILL HAS THAT BODY NOW! And the bible says There is one mediator between THEOS and ANTHROPOS, the ANTHROPOS Christ Jesus.

He is still as ANTHROPOS as we are now! But it is IMMORTAL ANTHROPOS (humanity).

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by mfblume

It must be a human body because we are human beings who were originally intended to be immortal in such a spiritual body. Spiritual bodies are still physical. They're just adapted to immortal existence.

Human beings are what the Greek terms an "ANTHROPOS". A man is a human being. ANTHROPOS. We get the terms Anthropomorphic from it. And Jesus resurrected with an immortal spiritual body. Would we not say THAT is still human? Jesus STILL HAS THAT BODY NOW! And the bible says There is one mediator between THEOS and ANTHROPOS, the ANTHROPOS Christ Jesus.

He is still as ANTHROPOS as we are now! But it is IMMORTAL ANTHROPOS (humanity).

I do believe He has the body he was resurrected with it is certainly a literal corporal body that is immortal. I just question the term human however the result is the same.