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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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The idea of the 10 lost tribes is a very old teaching, wrong but old. Mormons teach it but JS was a plagiarist of the Nth degree.
The idea of others, after the tower of Babel having a slight understanding of the eternal God is not hard to grasp however.
Every culture in every nation has a elementary teaching regarding the flood and that it was brought about by the God of all who was judging man for their sins.
Every culture.
The native americans are very spiritual people but not right in their spirituality.
The Chippewas up north believe in the great god that they call Gitchamanadoo.
Yet they worship him with drugs, sweat lodges, and other paganism.
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Maybe Chief Chucky can help. 
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06-09-2015, 04:10 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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I can see what you are saying, but are you saying that somehow Adam spoke Hebrew?
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Bump for votivesoul.
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06-09-2015, 04:11 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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Why is it so hard for some to see that I'm NOT TALKING ABOUT LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL?
I'm talking about the possibility of Native Americans being descended from a people group from Babel, which happened a couple of THOUSAND YEARS before the ten tribes of Israel was lost.
Maybe they weren't descendants of Shem, but Noah had two other sons whose offspring, in time, covered the face of the earth.
The Native American people have to be descended from one of Noah's three sons.
Further, I didn't say Adam or anyone else spoke Hebrew. But God revealed His name as early as Genesis 4; see below:
Genesis 4:26,
The LORD, i.e. YHWH.
A name is a name, regardless of the language. Even when the languages were confounded by YHWH, it's not likely anyone's name, including His own, were somehow immediately forgotten. See here:
Jeremiah 16:19-21,
God promised to reveal Himself to the Gentiles and when He did, they would know His name is YHWH.
If God did such a thing one time in antiquity, is it not possible that the name YHWH was somehow known to an ancient people who became the Native Americans?
The Algonquin have a creation/flood myth that involves a mighty hero, not unlike the Epic of Gilgamesh, which is an Akkadian myth mirroring the Noah story of the Flood. These myths may very well overlap, and so, are conflating the story of the Flood with Nimrod, the "mighty hunter" present at Babel. |
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06-09-2015, 04:12 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
Mongols, Asians or Indians are not from Shem, probably are from Ham.
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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Well were did eyeh come from?
It is a Hebrew word we are talking about correct?
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06-09-2015, 04:50 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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That's not a question that can be answered.
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Neither can whether or not the Indians were directly descended from Babel..its all speculation
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YHWH, though Hebrew, is first and primarily a name. Even if the language is lost, a name can be remembered as it is and was.
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Languages change and evolve over just a few hundred years but we are dealing with a couple thousand.
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Yeah, I looked him up. I think he's off his rocker and most everything that I looked at, and quite militant about it, too.
But that doesn't prove or disprove anything by association.
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Im still waiting for proof. But it DOES cast doubt that he knows what he is talking about. As I said, I heard the song and it does NOT sound like "Yahweh". We are assuming everything this crackpot says is true
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We shouldn't "poison the well" against whoever this Quiet Buck is in regards to the topic at hand, even if he's personally goofed up on a lot of other things.
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Oh I am NOT poisoning the well. He puts "I AM" under the words supposedly being the name of God...in Indian. Well the problem is Yahweh does not mean I AM...
Get it? He is operating on a faulty assumption of Hebrew
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06-09-2015, 04:53 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
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I can see what you are saying, but are you saying that somehow Adam spoke Hebrew?
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Yeah...and when God changed their language at Babel...these Indians kept calling God "Yahweh", and then took a 7000 mile hike across land and ocean?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-09-2015, 04:58 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
God reveals Himself through the Son
BTW Indians are descendents of Siberians
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...h-reveals.html
Why don't Siberians call God Yahweh?
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-09-2015, 05:00 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
Native Americans have many gods
http://www.native-languages.org/gods.htm
Here is a list of Creator Gods...now Yahweh on it
http://www.native-languages.org/creator.htm
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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06-09-2015, 05:03 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Seen or Heard of This (YHWH)?
There is a rock band that sings this song that has this part of the lyrics that go.."Yahyahyah yahyah"..does that mean he was saying the name of God?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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