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Old 11-27-2012, 08:55 PM
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the question is how do you define the salvation that christ brings.
No the issue was socialism. You confuse Politics and Religion

Salvation is about man being sinners and already condemned but being free from that condemnation and forgiven of sins by faith in Christ.

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is it only spiritual salvation or both spiritual and physical.
See above.

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god liberated the children of israel from physical oppression.
No. God separated them so they can go worship God. But again that has nothing to do with the issue of Politics

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has god changed and is now only concerned with spiritual salvation?
What does that have to do with POLITICS and SOCIALISM and REVOLUTIONS and TAKING MONEY from People to give to others till we are all equally poor but a few powerful Elite?

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where in the bible says we should not advocate for social justice?
Nobody said we should not advocate social justice. Did you not read what I said earlier?

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there are plenty of examples in the prophets about the poor and oppressed.

Psalm 12:5
For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.

1 Samuel 2:8
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them.

Psalm 146:7
Which executeth judgment for the oppressed: which giveth food to the hungry. The LORD looseth the prisoners:
What does that have to do with my post?

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is this spiritual salvation only?
See above
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:56 PM
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The church, or Christians, should help the poor, not engage in revolutions. The church should not be in charge of governments

The church changes through spiritual means not political activism. Vote your conscious but don't confuse what the church is
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the question is how do you define the salvation that christ brings. is it only spiritual salvation or both spiritual and physical. god liberated the children of israel from physical oppression. has god changed and is now only concerned with spiritual salvation? where in the bible says we should not advocate for social justice? there are plenty of examples in the prophets about the poor and oppressed.

Psalm 12:5
For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.

1 Samuel 2:8
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them.

Psalm 146:7
Which executeth judgment for the oppressed: which giveth food to the hungry. The LORD looseth the prisoners:

is this spiritual salvation only?
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No the issue was socialism. You confuse Politics and Religion

Salvation is about man being sinners and already condemned but being free from that condemnation and forgiven of sins by faith in Christ.


See above.


No. God separated them so they can go worship God. But again that has nothing to do with the issue of Politics


What does that have to do with POLITICS and SOCIALISM and REVOLUTIONS and TAKING MONEY from People to give to others till we are all equally poor but a few powerful Elite?



Nobody said we should not advocate social justice. Did you not read what I said earlier?


What does that have to do with my post?


See above
See in bold
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:59 PM
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Re: Is This Avatar More Agreeable?

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the question is how do you define the salvation that christ brings. is it only spiritual salvation or both spiritual and physical. god liberated the children of israel from physical oppression. has god changed and is now only concerned with spiritual salvation? where in the bible says we should not advocate for social justice? there are plenty of examples in the prophets about the poor and oppressed.

Psalm 12:5
For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.

1 Samuel 2:8
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them.

Psalm 146:7
Which executeth judgment for the oppressed: which giveth food to the hungry. The LORD looseth the prisoners:

is this spiritual salvation only?
What about Christians who are poor because they are oppressed by evil socialists like Che?
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:08 PM
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What about Christians who are poor because they are oppressed by evil socialists like Che?
Or the thousands of Christians in China persecuted daily. Or those killed off by Pol Pot, Stalin, etc.
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What about my avatar???? I am making a political statement.
NG....I liked your other avatar much better.

The natives around here knew how Elvis really grew up and they do tell.

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