Military Service

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by houston

Funny. The only examples you can find are in the O.T.

The Old Testament was revered as 'the Word of God' by the apostles.

Just because the New COVENANT made the Old COVENANT obsolete, doesn't mean the New TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES made the Old TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES obsolete.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

This really cuts to the heart of the matter, though. I am personally quite conflicted in this question. I was raised pacifist, and now I refer to myself as something of a "recovering pacifist"... so don't tempt me!

Haha...Maybe the non-pacifists can help me out on this one.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by supertone

American armed forces aren't as "just" as you assume... come to think of it, neither is the American government and it's foreign policy. Where were those weapons of mass destruction that Iraq supposedly had?

Syria.

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Syria.

That's right. Sadam's former generals confirmed it.
Btw, how could he wipe out complete northern villages in a couple of hours?
That's right: with Weapons of Mass Destruction.

[supertone]

The only country to ever use weapons of mass destruction on another nation is the United States of America. Bush and Rumsfeld have both publicly stated that a 'mistake' was made on the issue. The point is that it's extremely naive to think that a serviceman for the United States of America is serving a 'more just' cause than a serviceman for any other country. The notion in itself is actually quite laughable.

[Aquila]

What was the position of the early church for the first 200 or so years of Christianity?

[The Lemon]

I think it is laughable for any civillian to think they "know" all the operations procedures and motivations behind them.

There is no doubt that America as a whole has lost her way on many moral and ethical fronts, but I have no doubt that without a strong military we will be at the mercy of those who would like nothing more then to wipe this country off the world map.

[bbyrd009]

"when I defend myself, I am attacked."

Hmm, what should one do with a country that has
as a whole has lost her way on many moral and ethical fronts, hmm...
all that remains, of course, is to raise a finger (from the mire, lol) and
point it sanctimoniously at some enemy; Muslims, perhaps, or gays-
-maybe the French

Maybe Republicans will save us

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by The Lemon

I think it is laughable for any civillian to think they "know" all the operations procedures and motivations behind them...

"All these kingdoms You see before You are mine,
to do with as I will..."

I think the motivations, at least, are pretty clear?

[returnman]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

The New Testament never supports any type of killing in this current dispensation. We see a shift from God establishing an earthly kingdom through Israel to now establishing a spiritual kingdom through His church. Why don't you give me a scirptural definition or example, relevent to this dispensation, of a "just killing"?

Just stay home on your cozy church pews while others go fight for your rights. I have heard of one well known apostolic preacher that did this during WWII while my dad and his brothers and my uncles all served.