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Re: Almost saved- so near at yet so far
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Perhaps we should have a discussion on what we define as "works"?
"For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God." Romans 4:2
"Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works." James 2:18
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I would like for rrford and/or Coonskinner to comment on this, if they feel inclined. Thanks!
Oops, I messed up this post! Cindy!!!
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02-06-2011, 03:43 PM
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Re: Almost saved- so near at yet so far
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I see.
Thanks for the correction.
Sorry.
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Tell us how many * it had so we can figure it out!!!!! 
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02-06-2011, 03:44 PM
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Loving God, His Word, His Name
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Re: Almost saved- so near at yet so far
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Perhaps we should have a discussion on what we define as "works"?
"For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God." Romans 4:2
"Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works." James 2:18 |
It is works if it is used to bring salvation. We are justified through faith. We are saved by grace through faith. Salvation is a gift from God. A gift is neither earned or merited. Works are means by which one merits grace. That is what many so-called three step proponents believe.
Works which bring about salvation is unbiblical. Works because of salvation is biblical.
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02-06-2011, 03:44 PM
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Re: Almost saved- so near at yet so far
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Tell us how many * it had so we can figure it out!!!!! |
Some might use the *&^$ method as well. 
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02-06-2011, 03:45 PM
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Re: Almost saved- so near at yet so far
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Some might use the *&^$ method as well. |
Man, I will NEVER figure it out!!! 
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02-06-2011, 03:46 PM
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Re: Almost saved- so near and yet so far
Let me make sure I get this right. The way to tell that someone is saved is by looking at their outward appearance? That has to be it, because we aren't God, so we can't see their heart. Wait, that can't be right. Because........................................... ..............
But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart. 1 Samuel 16:7 KJV
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-06-2011, 03:46 PM
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Re: Almost saved- so near at yet so far
I have never known you to have to PO, in the short time I have been back here. 
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02-06-2011, 03:46 PM
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Re: Almost saved- so near and yet so far
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Originally Posted by Cindy
Let me make sure I get this right. The way to tell that someone is saved is by looking at their outward appearance? That has to be it, because we aren't God, so we can't see their heart. Wait, that can't be right. Because........................................... ..............
But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart. 1 Samuel 16:7 KJV |
No, no, no... don't quote that scripture... it just makes them angrier! 
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02-06-2011, 03:47 PM
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Re: Almost saved- so near at yet so far
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Originally Posted by UnTraditional
It is works if it is used to bring salvation. We are justified through faith. We are saved by grace through faith. Salvation is a gift from God. A gift is neither earned or merited. Works are means by which one merits grace. That is what many so-called three step proponents believe.
Works which bring about salvation is unbiblical. Works because of salvation is biblical.
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So, what is it called when I walk across the room and step into the baptistery? That looks like, to me, that I am showing my faith by my works.
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02-06-2011, 03:48 PM
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Re: Almost saved- so near at yet so far
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I have never known you to have to PO, in the short time I have been back here. |
Hey, that wasn't funny!!! 
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