PO Texan speaks out on healthcare

[Esther]

Originally Posted by MikeinAR

I understand your opposed to his plan, I just don't understand what your basing your opinion on a public option about. That's just not factual.

Look at the VA. It is very mismanaged. The men that were wounded serving their country treats them like an unwanted plight.

Look at the Medicare. It started out as seemly a good thing. It cost more, the doctors are not getting paid a fair rate, nor paid in a timely manner. What is covered is deminished every year and the cost to the taxpayer goes up.

I will say the doctors are a part of the problem with the healthcare due to some massive abuse. Not all doctors abused the system, but those that did, really hurt the system.

Based on these examples of the government being in charge and the poor results does not in any way encourage me to even want to consider the government having any say so in the matter.

Plus the original HC bill, had some very bad plans.

They did want to have death counseling.

They did want to have rashioned care.

If these things don't get approved the first time they will plan to wait it out and sneak it in like they usually do. And that is both parties guilty!

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Esther

Twisp, IF OB gets his way then they will phase out insurance companies and offer only government healthcare with all their restrictions. And yes the insurance companies also have restrictions, however, you can at this time, ship for another insurance company. Private insurance will NOT be able to compete with the government who will raise our taxes to pay for the insurance, so you will be paying both ways, if not careful.

At this time, I do not like what I have read about the proposed insurance. Don't know what changes are proposed.

Esther, this is the 2nd time you have stated this re healthcare. Where are you getting your info?!

I quoted a group in the insurance game which stated this isn't so, and you didn't believe their report.

So, on what are you drawing your conclusions?!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Barb

Esther, this is the 2nd time you have stated this re healthcare. Where are you getting your info?!

I quoted a group in the insurance game which stated this isn't so, and you didn't believe their report.

So, on what are you drawing your conclusions?!

I think it was PO or Coadie that posted a youtube of OB making that statement in his run for president. He said it may take awhile to get it accomplished but that is his goal. And it was not a one time statement.

I have also heard the clips played on Hannity and Rush as well. So it is out there. That is his goal, to have a government run healthcare that takes out the private sector.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Esther

I think it was PO or Coadie that posted a youtube of OB making that statement in his run for president. He said it may take awhile to get it accomplished but that is his goal. And it was not a one time statement.

I have also heard the clips played on Hannity and Rush as well. So it is out there. That is his goal, to have a government run healthcare that takes out the private sector.

Then those in the business of providing insurance to millions are incorrect in their information.

Interesting...

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Barb

Then those in the business of providing insurance to millions are incorrect in their information.

Interesting...

Barb, I believe he has backed down for "now" on pushing that because of the uproar from the people. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to sneak it in again later.

Haven't you heard him and others put the blame on the insurance companies for the plight of the healthcare system?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esther

I think it was PO or Coadie that posted a youtube of OB making that statement in his run for president. He said it may take awhile to get it accomplished but that is his goal. And it was not a one time statement.

I have also heard the clips played on Hannity and Rush as well. So it is out there. That is his goal, to have a government run healthcare that takes out the private sector.

Esther,
Is this what you are referring to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAya...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAPL...eature=related

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

And here I thought P.O. was going to be on that video! I'm so disappointed.

I totally missed this post, AQP! LOL! I need to do one with my Bubba Teeth!!!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Esther,
Is this what you are referring to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAya...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAPL...eature=related

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esther

His presentation in the last video is why people don't trust him. The second video lines out how he expects to get it done.

[Pressing-On]

Esther,
Here's a couple of Obama's fear gaffes that have proved to be lies. Should I put this on the thread - YOU LIE!

Obama and Michelle should have collaborated before their speeches! lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ea4G...embedded#t=132