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Old 10-16-2008, 07:46 AM
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"I'm not President Bush. Senator Obama if you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run against him four years ago!"

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"I appreciate BO's eloquence, but you have to look at words"
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Not a good enough explanation on Ayers. Tried to water that down!
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:36 AM
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FactChecking Debate No. 3

October 16, 2008
Sorting out fact and fiction in the presidential candidates' final debate.

Summary
Spin and hype were apparent, once again, at the third and final debate between McCain and Obama:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...bate_no_3.html
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:51 AM
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I think that his response to McCain's line about running against Bush was pretty effective. Basically that if he has a problem telling them apart, it is because they have been indistiguishable on the issues of the economy. Basically saying that you didn't separate yourself from Bush policies with your votes during his tenure...so don't try to do it now during the campaign. I'm sure that both sides will claim absolute victory on that exchange but I thought it was a pretty good blow then counter-blow.
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:21 AM
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There was a snippet about John McCain saying that if Obama wins he will unilaterally renegotiate NAFTA.
McCain then supposedly said Canada will sell our Oil to China!

McCain better go check his facts, China already has huge investments in our Oil!

I think Canada should nationalize our Oilfields!!! That way we could control it.

Not gonna happen though, previous Governments already sold us out long ago.
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:28 PM
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I think that his response to McCain's line about running against Bush was pretty effective. Basically that if he has a problem telling them apart, it is because they have been indistiguishable on the issues of the economy. Basically saying that you didn't separate yourself from Bush policies with your votes during his tenure...so don't try to do it now during the campaign. I'm sure that both sides will claim absolute victory on that exchange but I thought it was a pretty good blow then counter-blow.
I agree. I thought it was John McCain's best attempt to finally distance himself from GWB. I'm not sure why he hasn't tried that line more often over the last few months to defend himself.

In turn, Obama answered very well with the facts of McCain's support of GWB's policies.

That was a great exchange on a key issue in this election.
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This election is NOT OVER!


There is the "Bradley Effect" for the Obama camp to be concerned about.

For the record, here in the DC area, many folks are calling the last debate a tie, despite the polls.

Since Sen. Obama failed to deliver a knock out blow, this election is still too close to call.
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This election is NOT OVER!


There is the "Bradley Effect" for the Obama camp to be concerned about.

For the record, here in the DC area, many folks are calling the last debate a tie, despite the polls.

Since Sen. Obama failed to deliver a knock out blow, this election is still too close to call.
I've read both sides on the Bradley effect. It's an interesting proposition to think about, but I'm not convinced it even exists.

If you go back and actually evaluate what happened with Tom Bradley in 1982, the tracking polls were dead even the first of November before his defeat. Furthermore, he in fact did win the election day vote, but lost by a large margin with the absentee vote.

The Bradley effect claims that white voters will somehow get cold feet when they actually vote on election day and not vote for a black candidate. That, in fact, isn't what happened with Tom Bradley's race at all. Voters on election day chose him, it was the absentee vote that didn't'.

Besides, the polls in a lot of the key battleground states are even above the 6 or 7% threshold that proponents of the Bradley effect believe a black candidate would have to surpass.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...lective_m.html
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This election is NOT OVER!


There is the "Bradley Effect" for the Obama camp to be concerned about.

For the record, here in the DC area, many folks are calling the last debate a tie, despite the polls.

Since Sen. Obama failed to deliver a knock out blow, this election is still too close to call.
You're correct about the "Bradley Effect"! Obama is counting on the youth vote, and I'm not sure that they have the patience to wait in long lines to vote, especially if they believe their candidate is going to win anyway.

Obama may very well win, but I doubt it will be a landslide as some are predicting.
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You're correct about the "Bradley Effect"! Obama is counting on the youth vote, and I'm not sure that they have the patience to wait in long lines to vote, especially if they believe their candidate is going to win anyway.

Obama may very well win, but I doubt it will be a landslide as some are predicting.
Interesting on the youth vote. I heard on the news in our local area that 700 college kids registered and less than 75 said that they would, indeed, actually vote in this election.

That's a statistic that has always been found to be true.
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DId you know that Obama is already planning a huge victory party?

He may be in for a letdown. McCain is at his best when the chips are down.
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