Apostolic Feminists

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed

Not many older men date fat women either. age doesn't have much to do with it. They can be bald, and even overweight too.... nah, it doesn't matter... they want their women thin when they marry. They might tolerate the weight gain later in marriage, but that is because of their love for her.

Foreverblessed..you are right about this. I think it quite hilarious the fat, bald, and over the hiill men who think that the deserve a young, thin, pretty woman...why would the women/girls even want to go out with the guy?

[Coonskinner]

The first part of a man that a woman notices is his backside--because that's where he keeps his wallet.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Getting back on topic overlooking hidden innuendo and putdowns (not you Pastor P) ....... to your original post and question........

What's happening in the world sooner or later finds a resting place in the church so .... feminism in its negative connotation and effect is in the church. However I don't think that a certain style of speaking nor certain types of personality and how that's expressed behind a pulpit have to do so much with feminism. But certainly some of the messages coming across reek of something that sounds foreign to me and would no doubt to many of the women of this and previous generations.

Women can use intelligence "power" manipulatively (yep .... uh huh) as much as what they feel they lose in regard to physical attractiveness "power".

As for the style of some of these lady preachers, like everything else it's open for opinion. Some have no problem with it. Some do.

1. What hidden innuendo and put downs?

2. Where do you see feminism in the church?

3. What is a message that you have heard, that reeks (of something foreign) to you probably past generations?

4. Can you share a an example of "intelliegence power" manipulation?

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Newman

1. What hidden innuendo and put downs?

2. Where do you see feminism in the church?

3. What is a message that you have heard, that reeks (of something foreign) to you probably past generations?

4. Can you share a an example of "intelliegence power" manipulation?

I see feminism in the attitudes and behavior of some women, particularly younger women who have grown up under the influence of some of the mindsets of this generation.

This "two powers" message is foreign to me.

Intelligence power manipulation .... I really can only imagine. But if young ladies are being taught that the first power is manipulative then surely the second power could be too.

"Talk is cheap" remark made to my husband. What did you mean by that anyway? My husband isn't usually referred to in that manner.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I see feminism in the attitudes and behavior of some women, particularly younger women who have grown up under the influence of some of the mindsets of this generation.

This "two powers" message is foreign to me.

Intelligence power manipulation .... I really can only imagine. But if young ladies are being taught that the first power is manipulative then surely the second power could be too.

"Talk is cheap" remark made to my husband. What did you mean by that anyway? My husband isn't usually referred to in that manner.

In reverse order....

1. Please forgive the remark. It wasn't meant to be offensive.
It strikes me as funny when men say that looks is far down on the list of importance in a mate; but note that their wife has got it.

2. Hmm... WWOD posted just about the same thing in different words on a thread you were very active on. I don't remember you disagreeing then.

3. I noted something of interest in the brief video we saw. She pointed out that one can be outright defiant about doing something (which may be what you are referring to with this generation) but she also noted there are those who say ok but ignore what was asked of them. (In other words they come across as submissive but they are anything but).

Actions speak louder than words.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Do you believe they exist?

My wife, who is very active in District Ladies ministry, tells me that more and more she sees women speakers who's mannerisms and demeanor seem to be quite masculine. They scream, pound the pulpit, line everybody out on standards and such.

Recently, I had a chance to watch a lady preacher from TBN. Her first name was Paula (I can't remember the last name). She exhibited what my wife told me she keeps seeing at some of our "ladies" conferences.

It was revolting. I can't stand to see male preachers who priss around like fairies, and I can't stand to see women preachers/speakers who stomp around like lumberjacks.

Does feminism have a place in the Apostolic movement?

Just a thought.... don't you think that in some of these circumstances that it is the way the lady speaker is responding to the anointing she feels. Haven't you ever just felt so anointed and overtaken with the Holy Ghost that you feel like you're about to burst?

I agree that there are some ladies seem manly, I don't know if they think it gives them more authority with the congregation or what.......but I do think with some it's just how they're responding to the Holy Ghost.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Newman

In reverse order....

1. Please forgive the remark. It wasn't meant to be offensive.
It strikes me as funny when men say that looks is far down on the list of importance in a mate; but note that their wife has got it.

2. Hmm... WWOD posted just about the same thing in different words on a thread you were very active on. I don't remember you disagreeing then.

3. I noted something of interest in the brief video we saw. She pointed out that one can be outright defiant about doing something (which may be what you are referring to with this generation) but she also noted there are those who say ok but ignore what was asked of them. (In other words they come across as submissive but they are anything but).

Actions speak louder than words.

Actually I did disagree then too. I don't buy into this "power" thing.

In regards to point 3. Yep - there are all kinds of people for sure.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Newman

In reverse order....

1. Please forgive the remark. It wasn't meant to be offensive.
It strikes me as funny when men say that looks is far down on the list of importance in a mate; but note that their wife has got it.

Hmmm.....I don't believe that he said it was far down the list. How many men or women are immune to good looks and personality. I don't think men are that dumb (unlike JS) that they don't take into consideration the character and pedigree of the woman they choose to marry. Perhaps some are that thoughtless, but most? I doubt it. It's part of the "whole package".

Like I said.........some of us actively and earnestly sought the will of God for our lives .... including the person we were to marry. Prayer and consecration and soldout-ness was a lifestyle. I know most of my friends were very serious about marrying the right man. It wasn't all about looks. Most of us are pretty average looking really.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

The first part of a man that a woman notices is his backside--because that's where he keeps his wallet.

was that TIC?

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Hmmm.....I don't believe that he said it was far down the list.

Right! It wasn't even on the list. It was a bonus.