The Difference Between the PCI of the Merger and the Current Counterfeits

[SDG]

Originally Posted by rrford

Not at all. If you will remember I said I had no interest in discussing the Fudge book.

And hey, you were the one who brought him up.

and you're the one who without fail or trepidation sought to discredit him.

Originally Posted by rrford

And germaine to that is exactly what those from the past and the current believed concerning the necessity of Holy Ghost baptism.

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I thought you wrote books for a living...

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Bro... not LITERALLY like they did just two months before.
That was his point...

Anyway........ never mind.




So do you suppose I forgot that? Do you suppose I no longer believe that?

No my friend. How could you or I forget what He's done for us?

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by rrford

But is it optional for salvation or not? Can one be saved without it?

I believe the answer is yes if you're talking about the baptism of the Spirit evidenced by speaking in tongues.

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Every author writes from some sort of bias. It's impossible not to. So do we throw every book written out because of this? I don't think so.

There was enough fact reported in Tom's book for it to be considered a historical record and to be taken seriously .... in spite of bias which I will admit was there.

Not at all. I read CWTC and found it to be interesting, historically speaking. I shed light on why there is so much angst among UPC'rs when you try and pin them down on the message. So much of their history is cloaked in that PCI doctrine that it has caused many to not really understand what they believe.

[SDG]

back in circles ...this is the only reason ... this discussion was brought up ... to prove how right they are .... not to somehow praise the old time PCIers ... they were always marginalized and eventually swept away ...

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

and you're the one who without fail or trepidation sought to discredit him.

Oh, get off it. I did no such thing. You are by far one of the most obfuscating posters to ever grace this Forum. Anytime I have seen you backed up a little you find some way to divert from the original meaning. Good way to get folks to quit repsonding to you.

Keep your eye on the ball or get out of the game. You brought up a reference. I posted a response, which Felicity has since agreed with in part. Why not attack her for calling TF biased?

For what it is worth, the questions can be answered from scripture apart from historical books. How about trying to do so?

Is the Holy Ghost baptism necessary for salvation?

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

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I thought you wrote books for a living...

Uhm, sorry. Simple typo. Added an "i: that didn't belong.

[SDG]

is loving your neighbor necessary for salvation ... c'mon RR ... you knowest.

Today I speak of how the movement has taught and presented this necessity ...

Originally Posted by rrford

Uhm, sorry. Simple typo. Added an "i: that didn't belong.

Just giving you a hard time.

I'm the world's worst at typing/spelling.