Islam vs. Christianity Part 1

[Thomas Trini]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Some are old and some are new.

I wish you would learn how to post these responses correctly. Now I'm really starting to understand what Praxeas went through in answering me. I still don't have the complete hang of it. But at least I'm making it easier for them (Praxeas and friends) to respond to my posts (I think). I keep having to type up all of your responses before I can even answer.
So, to make it easier on me (before I get booted off), I'll abbreviate your questions...."Those who do not believe in God"...Again, which God? You have to have the right God. As scripture says: "even the demons believe in God."
..."and follow God's laws"...Which laws? the Old Testament has over 300 commandments. Jesus brought it all down to one commandment.
..."believe that they earn, make, and keep things for themselves"...You're painting with a very broad brush here. If you do your research a little you'll find that even "non-believers" have been very charitable (except liberals, who give far less than conservatives). For example, Rush Limbaugh, who probably rarely goes to church, has given alot to charity. of course, that may change since Obama wants to take away tax deductions for charitable giving. But perhaps that's only going to hurt the charities. Certainly those who are closer to being poor than the rich will feel it.
Which are you?I can never repay God for all of his blessings, or "out-give" him. So even 100% wouldn't be enough.
..."It is in the Bible and not in the Old Testament"...I think you missed my point. About 50 years ago, many Muslims dressed in modern/contemporary clothing. Suddenly, around 1970 or so, they converted back to 7th Century styles of dress.
How far back do you want to go? 100 years ago, men wore hats. About 200 years ago, we didn't have refrigerators, and had to use salt to preserve our food. Clean water was a problem as well at various points in our history (certainly for sea going vessels), and men often ate with liquor to wash down the food. If you're going to mention dress styles, we'll also have to go into other areas (sleeping in straw beds? Stones for a pillow? Travel by horse?) as well. Why just clothing? Let's keep going if you're going to be absolutely consistent 100 percent of the time.
..."I must have "squirm detection" on my PC"...You miss the entire point of Christ coming to earth and paying for our sins. We can never meet God's perfect standards. There had to be a substitute. All of the laws and commandments are proof that we can never be good enough to merit salvation. The "pork" issue (and unclean foods)? It made the Israelites merely outlive their enemies, before food could be properly cooked.
I hope I answered enough to satisfy you. But I doubt it.

[Walks_in_islam]

I have been away. New baby.

Originally Posted by Thomas Trini

I wish you would learn how to post these responses correctly.

I like my posting just fine.

Now I'm really starting to understand what Praxeas went through in answering me. I still don't have the complete hang of it. But at least I'm making it easier for them (Praxeas and friends) to respond to my posts (I think). I keep having to type up all of your responses before I can even answer.

Um copy and paste. Or, my personal preference is that you do not answer at all. Your responses are for the most part opinionated and have no factual information associated with them. You seem to think that I have asked you questions. I have not. I have answered and commented back to your opinionated comments, but since you have nothing of value to say, I have asked you nothing.

So, to make it easier on me (before I get booted off), I'll abbreviate your questions...."Those who do not believe in God"...Again, which God? You have to have the right God. As scripture says: "even the demons believe in God."

There is only one God. You have trouble with that. You forgot "and follow God's laws". Demons do not do that. duh

..."and follow God's laws"...Which laws? the Old Testament has over 300 commandments. Jesus brought it all down to one commandment.
..."believe that they earn, make, and keep things for themselves"...You're painting with a very broad brush here. If you do your research a little you'll find that even "non-believers" have been very charitable (except liberals, who give far less than conservatives). For example, Rush Limbaugh, who probably rarely goes to church, has given alot to charity.

I commented (way, way) earlier that lining the pockets of your pastors for purposes of tax deduction is not charity and does not make you good people. Our charity MUST go directly to the truly needy. No middlemen.

of course, that may change since Obama wants to take away tax deductions for charitable giving. But perhaps that's only going to hurt the charities. Certainly those who are closer to being poor than the rich will feel it.
Which are you?I can never repay God for all of his blessings, or "out-give" him. So even 100% wouldn't be enough.
..."It is in the Bible and not in the Old Testament"...I think you missed my point. About 50 years ago, many Muslims dressed in modern/contemporary clothing. Suddenly, around 1970 or so, they converted back to 7th Century styles of dress.

You missed mine. Is the requirement there or not? It is. It is not followed. It makes me laugh when one of you stutter your way out of a black and white teaching. So, the people of the book have walked away from the teachings of the book. This is stated to be the case in the Quran which matches my personal experience and observation. No matter how the sentence is worded these and other teachings are there and they are not followed. I have not and never have argued the validity of the bible which is referenced in the Quran. The teachings of the bible and practices of the church are different.

How far back do you want to go? 100 years ago, men wore hats. About 200 years ago, we didn't have refrigerators, and had to use salt to preserve our food. Clean water was a problem as well at various points in our history (certainly for sea going vessels), and men often ate with liquor to wash down the food. If you're going to mention dress styles, we'll also have to go into other areas (sleeping in straw beds? Stones for a pillow? Travel by horse?) as well. Why just clothing? Let's keep going if you're going to be absolutely consistent 100 percent of the time.

You are required to set yourselves apart from the rest of the world. Few of you do that. In this you have strayed.

..."I must have "squirm detection" on my PC"...You miss the entire point of Christ coming to earth and paying for our sins. We can never meet God's perfect standards. There had to be a substitute. All of the laws and commandments are proof that we can never be good enough to merit salvation. The "pork" issue (and unclean foods)? It made the Israelites merely outlive their enemies, before food could be properly cooked.

Both your bible and the Quran teach you that your bodies are not to be contaminated with unclean things. Putting unclean things in your body is sinful. Pork is unclean no matter how it is cooked. Smoking is unclean. Drinking is unclean. Your bible and the Quran and science agree on these things.

I hope I answered enough to satisfy you. But I doubt it.

I did not ask you anything.

[Walks_in_islam]

Only a pagan. I crafted, built, and made the alter point. What I got from it is a denial that the alter is a symbol of a sacred place reserved for prayer. Fine. Denial accepted. But you still build them. You still make a call to them to pray. You made your point just fine. lol

Your words on Islam will have merit when you find just one muslim or teacher of Islam among over a billion to choose from who states and teaches to "worship and pray to a stone" rather than a bunch of stuff on the internet with "legends" and "it is reportedly" and "during pre-islamic times" etc etc etc sprinkled through it. Much hate speech on religion is available on the internet. Making it wordy with lots of figures does not make that hate speech right.

What is written here from your "sources" directly contradicts the fundamental pillar of the oneness of God and the grave sin of putting anyone or anything else in the place of God that is the basis of Islam. The worshippers of the pre-islamic pagan gods prayed during sunrise, sunset, and noon. Muslims from the beginning were forbidden to pray during these three times of day to ensure that the old pagan prayer practices were not followed. The idols were torn down. It was taught from the beginning not to worship or share devotion to anyone but the one true God. Now you are saying that this stuff on the internet that contradicts all of these teachings reflects what Islam really is.

But Mohammed did not worship it. Nor did he teach that the stone be worshipped. Nor does the Quran say that the stone be worshipped. Only your internet sources say this.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No actually you did NOT get the point, I said we DO pray AT an alter. We don't worship facing an alter like you guys face that rock in Mecca. BTW up until this point I have not called you any names, have I?

As for the Kaaba. The meteorite stone was not destroyed. It was a central part of pre islamic pagan worship. Muhammed kept it.

Here is the main Kaaba building being adored

[Thomas Trini]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I have been away. New baby.

Ah. Another future terrorist raised in absolute hatred of all things infidel. Just what the world needs. Hope he, or she, rebels and becomes a born again Christian. Then we'll just see who's religion, and God, is more loving.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I like my posting just fine.

Your posting requires almost an hour of retyping your responses and then answering them ponit by point.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Um, copy and paste. Or, my personal preference is that you do not answer at all. Your responses for the most part opinionated and have no factual information associated with them. You seem to think that I have asked you questions. I have not. I have answered and commented back to your opinionated comments, but since you have nothing of value to say, I have asked you nothing.

Why? because I can't agree with you on anything. It is you who have not answered Praxeas.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

There is only one God. You have trouble with that. You forgot "and follow God's laws". Demons do not do that. duh

Once again. Which God is THE ONLY ONE? It is not Allah. Any (honest) Arab will tell you that Allah was once a pagan God prior to Mo-HAM-med attempting to copy Jews and make him one God. But as I said as well once before, you serve two Gods: 1)Allah and 2)The Quran, which you will also bow down to in the Muslim heaven and worship. Every religion in the world claims to be the correct one, which, like Islam, claims that was perverted by those who falsified the true religion, whether it be Islam, Hinduism, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Sihks, Kaballists, Masons, Moonies, Scientologists, Buddhists, Taoists, Rosicrusians...and on and on and on. As to demons: they do follow laws. Perhaps not dietary laws. But spiritual laws. There is only one name that they are subject to: Jesus. You're too hung up on laws to see the true gospel. If you reject the Grace of Jesus, then let me ask you: do you follow all of the 300+ commandments and laws of "THE BOOK"? IF YOU DO NOT, THEN SHUT UP. If you have reached the level of perfection necessary to inherit eternal life, please tell me more. Do you sin? What do you have to offer allah to repay for your sin?

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I commented (way, way) earlier that lining the pockets of your pastors for puposes of tax deduction is not charity and does not make you good people. Our charity MUST go directly to the truly needy. No middleman.

Hmm. That's odd. The same tax deductions that our pastors within Christendom use are the same ones used by you leaders within the Mosques in this country. Of course, we don't send our offerings overseas to blow up Israeli children. Many pastors, who start as pastors of smaller churches also have more than one job, and pastoring is only a part-time job with full time hours. Lining their pockets? Those who I have learned from could easily make $200,000 salaries, yet get far less than that. You seem to hate it when Christians paint you (Muslims) with a broad brush, but waste no time in doing the same. CAN YOU SAY HYPOCRITE?. Granted, there are a few within what we call "The Health and Wealth Movement," but they receive far more criticism from those within the church than from those outside.
As to "good people," within any religion: there are none. That was the point of Christ coming to earth and dying for your sins. If you choose to follow Islam and go to Hell, it will only be because you didn't want anything to do with the one true God, and chose to try and work your way to heaven.
If Islam is so great, why are there more Muslims coming to Christ, and Christianity, than at any other time in history? the Christian Church grows the most under persecution. Islam does not.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

You are required to set yourselves apart from the rest of the world. Few of you do that. In this you have strayed.

How? By dressing up in bedsheets and other pieces of cloth that resemble the red checkerboards on a picnic table? By living under 7th century laws and fables about some pedophile who claimed to speak for God, yet was illiterate. By wiping my butt with my bare hands? By walking around a black square in much the same manner as little children playing musical chairs prior to someone pulling the needle off the record player and making a mad dash for fewer and fewer chairs? Or what the Israelites did prior to the walls falling down in Jericho (which reminds me, what about the curse in the Book of Joshua that says anyone who attempts to rebuild Jericho will be cursed. Yet the Palestinians are doing just that). You think that observing dietary laws will save you. yet in place of the pork you refuse to eat, you don't mind eating lamb, the very symbol of Jesus Christ, who took away the sin of the world. Even in your dietary laws, you don't see the truth of Jesus Christ. But give me the name of the Book, Chapter and Verse about being clean and unclean. I will only be "apart from this world" when I leave this mortal body and put on an immortal body.
BTW, why is it Mein Kampf is still a best seller in Arab countries? Says alot, huh?
You keep seeing legalism. And that is why you will never understand the purpose of Christ's death. If you are "people of the book," why do you kill those who are?
Gotta go. Time's up.

[Walks_in_islam]

Ah. Another future terrorist raised in absolute hatred of all things infidel. Just what the world needs. Hope he, or she, rebels and becomes a born again Christian. Then we'll just see who's religion, and God, is more loving.

Certainly as far away from "loving followers of loving gods" who refer to newborn babies as "future terrorists" as possible. May this child have a chance to grow up first before you and your navy buddies randomly locate whatever remote part of the world we happen to be living in and pound the area senseless? thank you.

Your posting requires almost an hour of retyping your responses and then answering them ponit by point.

OH. What a waste. (laughing). Yours dont. There is a secret to it.

Why? because I can't agree with you on anything. It is you who have not answered Praxeas.

I answer everything Prax says.

Once again. Which God is THE ONLY ONE? It is not Allah. Any (honest) Arab will tell you that Allah was once a pagan God prior to Mo-HAM-med attempting to copy Jews and make him one God. But as I said as well once before, you serve two Gods: 1)Allah and 2)The Quran, which you will also bow down to in the Muslim heaven and worship.

You have a source for that or are you just sharing your perceptive opinion?

Every religion in the world claims to be the correct one, which, like Islam, claims that was perverted by those who falsified the true religion, whether it be Islam, Hinduism, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Sihks, Kaballists, Masons, Moonies, Scientologists, Buddhists, Taoists, Rosicrusians...and on and on and on. As to demons: they do follow laws. Perhaps not dietary laws. But spiritual laws.

Add your religion to the list of those perverted

There is only one name that they are subject to: Jesus. You're too hung up on laws to see the true gospel. If you reject the Grace of Jesus, then let me ask you: do you follow all of the 300+ commandments and laws of "THE BOOK"? IF YOU DO NOT, THEN SHUT UP.

"The book" is your book. Take your own advice.

If you have reached the level of perfection necessary to inherit eternal life, please tell me more. Do you sin? What do you have to offer allah to repay for your sin?
Hmm. That's odd. The same tax deductions that our pastors within Christendom use are the same ones used by you leaders within the Mosques in this country. Of course, we don't send our offerings overseas to blow up Israeli children.

You discount the dead children of those who are poor, brown, look different, or talk different that are left scattered around the world like litter by the actions of "christian nations" who are followers of their "loving god"

Many pastors, who start as pastors of smaller churches also have more than one job, and pastoring is only a part-time job with full time hours. Lining their pockets? Those who I have learned from could easily make $200,000 salaries, yet get far less than that. You seem to hate it when Christians paint you (Muslims) with a broad brush, but waste no time in doing the same. CAN YOU SAY HYPOCRITE?.

I do return that favor and you don't like it either do you? lol

Granted, there are a few within what we call "The Health and Wealth Movement," but they receive far more criticism from those within the church than from those outside.
As to "good people," within any religion: there are none. That was the point of Christ coming to earth and dying for your sins. If you choose to follow Islam and go to Hell, it will only be because you didn't want anything to do with the one true God, and chose to try and work your way to heaven.
If Islam is so great, why are there more Muslims coming to Christ, and Christianity, than at any other time in history? the Christian Church grows the most under persecution. Islam does not.

Yet even in the US Islam is the fastest growing religion. I bet that kind of concerns you (laughing). But christianity has nothing to offer anymore except shallow empty words and hollow principles. I offer you as poster boy.

How? By dressing up in bedsheets and other pieces of cloth that resemble the red checkerboards on a picnic table? By living under 7th century laws and fables about some pedophile who claimed to speak for God, yet was illiterate. By wiping my butt with my bare hands? By walking around a black square in much the same manner as little children playing musical chairs prior to someone pulling the needle off the record player and making a mad dash for fewer and fewer chairs? Or what the Israelites did prior to the walls falling down in Jericho (which reminds me, what about the curse in the Book of Joshua that says anyone who attempts to rebuild Jericho will be cursed. Yet the Palestinians are doing just that).

By following the words in your own book, which you obviously have not read. Did you quote something from the Old Testament and the "Old Law"? But, wait, you guys said there is "New Law" now and the New Testament is for information. MAYBE the book of Joshua is valid now ONLY because some text can be twisted to make a bad point about the Palestinians? It appears that the testaments are relevent or irrelevent in bits and pieces depending on what point you want to make?

You think that observing dietary laws will save you. yet in place of the pork you refuse to eat, you don't mind eating lamb, the very symbol of Jesus Christ, who took away the sin of the world.

Hey dude lamb is cheaper. What a stretch lol.

Even in your dietary laws, you don't see the truth of Jesus Christ. But give me the name of the Book, Chapter and Verse about being clean and unclean. I will only be "apart from this world" when I leave this mortal body and put on an immortal body.

Your bible says:

Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the LORD, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you

You say:

I will only be "apart from this world" when I leave this mortal body and put on an immortal body

OOPS. Aren't you in for a surprise someday.

You find the friggin chapter and verse. It will be a good study for you lol. Hint: It's in the NEW testament and if you need more references I'll put my quran down and give you some "bible study". You obviously could use it.



BTW, why is it Mein Kampf is still a best seller in Arab countries? Says alot, huh?

(laughing) @ "mein kampf". Of course, like nearly everything else evil that is defacated onto the world, it was probably written by an opinionated white guy from a "christian nation" and has NOTHING to do with Islam.

You keep seeing legalism. And that is why you will never understand the purpose of Christ's death. If you are "people of the book," why do you kill those who are?

Christians are "people of the book". I guess you missed that point much earlier. I have never killed anyone. Ask your navy buddies that question not me. Make sure you stick the "dead children" point somewhere into your question

[Praxeas]

I suppose you don't think Roman Catholics practice idolatry when they have statues of Mary and others? Why do Muslims kiss the stone and revere it and not call that worship? Worship is adoration and that is what you guys do

[Thomas Trini]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Certainly as far away from "loving followers of loving gods" who refer to newborn babies as "future terrorists" as possible. May this child have a chance to grow up first before you and your navy buddies randomly locate whatever remote part of the world we happen to be living in and pound the area senseless? thank you.

Perhaps it was going a bit far. But then again, really? I keep reading news accounts of Muslim fathers and mothers who(in Arab countries dominated by Islam), after their own daughters are raped by their son(s), stone the daughter to death, rather than punishing the sons in any way, shape or form, or even bring charges against the sons. Of mothers who perform female circumcision (without any anestesia) merely because, as far as women go, the marriage bed is not to be blessed. And hundreds of other nonsense under Sharia law.
As to my Navy buddies. Hey, when I was off the coast of Iraq on one of our Aircraft Carriers, the Iraqi's shot at US warplanes over 270 times. Finally, the Skipper decided we'd had enough, and bombed the military sites, and only those sites, with precision guided weapons.
If I really wanted to locate you, I could, and you know it. 'Nuff said.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

OH. What a waste. (laughing). Yours dont. There is a secret to it.

Kinda like learning to read right to left, instead of L to R?

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I answer everything Prax says.

I disagree. You merely dodge and obfuscate.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

You have a source for that or are you just sharing your perceptive opinion?

You know it's true. But it'll probably be like everything else, and even if I show it, you'll claim dishonesty.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Add your religion to the list of those perverted

From your standpoint, yes.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

"The book" is your book. Take your own advice.

So have you kept the 300+ dietary, civil and religious laws? Since you worship on Friday, and not Saturday(or even Sunday), you've broken that Commandment.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

You discount the dead children of those who are poor, brown, look different, or talk different that are left scattered around the world like litter by the actions of "christian nations" who are followers of their "loving god"

Let's be clear here. Islam isn't completely innocent. Let's not forget that it was Muslims in African nations who went into villages and sold Blacks to the Europeans. Let's not forget that it was only after 500 years, 500 years!!!!!, and half of the European population being wiped in half that Christians rose up and began fighting against the Islamic Crusades against the "people of the book."

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I do return that favor and you don't like it either do you? lol

Merely pointing it out.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Yet even in the US Islam is the fastest growing religion. I bet that kind of concerns you (laughing). But christianity has nothing to offer anymore except shallow empty words and hollow principles. I offer you as poster boy.

I disagree.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

By following the words in your own book, which you obviously have not read. Did you quote something from the Old Testament and the "Old Law"? But, wait, you guys said there is "New Law" now and the New Testament is for information. MAYBE the book of Joshua is valid now ONLY because some text can be twisted to make a bad point about the Palestinians? It appears that the testaments are relevent or irrelevent in bits and pieces depending on what point you want to make?

Running low on time. Like Mohammed, you select far fewer verses than I do. You know legalism of the book, but not the grace. You only attempt to link it through history and some certain laws. But how can that be if Mohammed was illiterate?

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Hey dude lamb is cheaper. What a stretch lol.

Tastes like chicken?

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Your bible says:

Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the LORD, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you

You say:

I will only be "apart from this world" when I leave this mortal body and put on an immortal body

OOPS. Aren't you in for a surprise someday.

If we viewed it from God's point of view, everything is "unclean." Case in point, what if I eat a pork sandwich and then handle a pen while eating and working on office work. A Muslim woman later handles the pen that I handled while eating a pork sandwich. Is she unclean? What about the Muslims who handle money laced with cocaine (and perhaps other unclean things), or grow cocaine in the Middle East?

[Walks_in_islam]

Your answer capn

Originally Posted by Thomas Trini

Perhaps it was going a bit far. But then again, really? I keep reading news accounts of Muslim fathers and mothers who(in Arab countries dominated by Islam), after their own daughters are raped by their son(s), stone the daughter to death, rather than punishing the sons in any way, shape or form, or even bring charges against the sons. Of mothers who perform female circumcision (without any anestesia) merely because, as far as women go, the marriage bed is not to be blessed. And hundreds of other nonsense under Sharia law.

I keep reading in the news about sunday school teachers, dead children in suitcases, and pastors who get caught up in child sex scandals. Hopefully will be able to keep the newbie as far from that as possible as well as far from people who refer to her as a "future terrorist" because of where she was born.

As to my Navy buddies. Hey, when I was off the coast of Iraq on one of our Aircraft Carriers, the Iraqi's shot at US warplanes over 270 times. Finally, the Skipper decided we'd had enough, and bombed the military sites, and only those sites, with precision guided weapons.
If I really wanted to locate you, I could, and you know it. 'Nuff said.

That don't scare me none to coin a phrase from the south. Well you are probably way and much better at finding and killing innocent people than you are at finding weapons of mass destruction, armed raggedy mountain villagers, or scriptures in your own bible.

Kinda like learning to read right to left, instead of L to R?

Kinda like hitting quote and answering. But you are probably better at finding innocent people to threaten than finding the quote button as well.

I disagree. You merely dodge and obfuscate.

Kinda like the "set yourself apart" and "unclean" dodge you made from the bible reference.

You know it's true. But it'll probably be like everything else, and even if I show it, you'll claim dishonesty.
From your standpoint, yes.
So have you kept the 300+ dietary, civil and religious laws? Since you worship on Friday, and not Saturday(or even Sunday), you've broken that Commandment.

I keep that one.

Let's be clear here. Islam isn't completely innocent. Let's not forget that it was Muslims in African nations who went into villages and sold Blacks to the Europeans. Let's not forget that it was only after 500 years, 500 years!!!!!, and half of the European population being wiped in half that Christians rose up and began fighting against the Islamic Crusades against the "people of the book."

People of the book are a term from the Quran for christians. You forgot that. and yeah, the people who sold the slaves are probably way worse then the christians who bought, beat, murdered, raped, forced them to work, then discarded them. Only because the sellers were brown and buyers were white.

There are no "islamic crusades". The crusades were a christian thing. that holy grail was never found. kinda like that "weapons of mass destruction" fiasco.

Merely pointing it out.
I disagree.

Running low on time. Like Mohammed, you select far fewer verses than I do. You know legalism of the book, but not the grace. You only attempt to link it through history and some certain laws. But how can that be if Mohammed was illiterate?
Tastes like chicken?

Tastes like lamb chops actually.

If we viewed it from God's point of view, everything is "unclean." Case in point, what if I eat a pork sandwich and then handle a pen while eating and working on office work. A Muslim woman later handles the pen that I handled while eating a pork sandwich. Is she unclean? What about the Muslims who handle money laced with cocaine (and perhaps other unclean things), or grow cocaine in the Middle East?

Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the LORD, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you

You are christian which means you probably feel you have the right to view this any way you want to. Since you did not know about it I felt it would be good to at least let you know it is in your book.

[Thomas Trini]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Your answer capn

Short on time.

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

..."Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the LORD, and touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you"...

I was just looking through the Levitical laws which you quote, about clean and unclean things. It was interesting, because one of the unclean animals are camels. Arabs won't go near an "unclean" pig, yet their association with camels is almost legendary. Birds of Prey are also unclean, yet aren't Arabs also avid followers of the sport Falconry?
As to the crusades, it was the Muslims who killed off half of Europe's population. Finally, after 500 years of being slaughtered, and attempting to turn the other cheek, they'd had enough. Then we kicks their butts, and they're still stuck in the 7th Century.
Question: Know why there are no Arabs on "Star Trek?" Answer: Because it's in the future.
As to the "weapons of mass destruction," while their were no nuclear devices found in Iraq, actually there were canisters and shells of chemical weapons (a.k.a. weapons of mass destruction). Most of us figure Saddam just played a shell game long enough to ship them over to a neighboring country (I.e. Jordan or Syria).

[Walks_in_islam]

I am laughing dude. Sorry. I will try to be serious.

Originally Posted by Thomas Trini

Short on time.
I was just looking through the Levitical laws which you quote, about clean and unclean things. It was interesting, because one of the unclean animals are camels. Arabs won't go near an "unclean" pig, yet their association with camels is almost legendary. Birds of Prey are also unclean, yet aren't Arabs also avid followers of the sport Falconry?

This is pathetic. That "Levitical quote" is from Corinthians. I told you it was in the New Testament. But you knew that. You need a Muslim to tell you what your bible says and where it is?
I am not aware of a "Falcon cookoff". BUT, in Louisiana where I actually grew up I am quite sure that if those cajuns could catch one they could make a fine tasty dish of it.

As to the crusades, it was the Muslims who killed off half of Europe's population. Finally, after 500 years of being slaughtered, and attempting to turn the other cheek, they'd had enough. Then we kicks their butts, and they're still stuck in the 7th Century.

What's this we? WE? (laughing) What you need to do is worry about kicking the butts of a few hundred raggedy mountain villagers. As to the arabs, they are still there aren't they? They probably own YOUR bank by now

Question: Know why there are no Arabs on "Star Trek?" Answer: Because it's in the future.

And "the only place Japanese will be spoken after this war will be in hell" Right tough guy. They probably own the rest of your bank

As to the "weapons of mass destruction," while their were no nuclear devices found in Iraq, actually there were canisters and shells of chemical weapons (a.k.a. weapons of mass destruction). Most of us figure Saddam just played a shell game long enough to ship them over to a neighboring country (I.e. Jordan or Syria).

Um yeah I know that you found some canisters and shells. What you neglected to point out is that you didnt find any chemicals for them. Somehow. See, no chemicals, no "weapons". That's like finding an empty hole in the ground then proclaiming you found a gold mine. They haven't turned up anywhere else either. Either, because they can't be found or they do not exist. Can't find those then you worry me none about finding me. lol. OH Hey. Maybe they were shipped to the moon with one of those raggedy scuds. I know they weren't in hussein's mouth because a doctor searched it. THAT was on the news. lol