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Old 03-19-2011, 12:44 PM
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Bullwinkle, you just confirmed what Charnock has been saying all along. You put the wearing of jewelry in the same category as adultery and homosexuality. How stupid is that?
Try reading carefully in the English language. I never mentioned any of those things. That's one of the reasons that many dont hang out here any more- they get tired of words being put in their mouths.

If a homosexual is in a service - is it wrong to preach against the sin of homosexuality? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Old 03-19-2011, 12:46 PM
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How are any of the things you mentioned comparable to preaching against outward appearances?

If we look at the first day of the church, Peter didn't point out anyone's particular sin. Instead He pointed to Jesus, the answer to their sin.
Actuall he did. He accused his audience of crucifying Christ
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Old 03-19-2011, 12:49 PM
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Really? I wish I could quote some of the things that RW, SH, SE, RKS, BL, and others said to me. I don't know of a more judgmental set of men. There reactions to me helped me to see that "love" of these men is the love of the world. They love you as long as you agree with their precious doctrine, but the minute you don't, they become vicious and hateful. What reward have you, if you love those who love you-do not the publican and sinners (and pharisees) do the same?
If you are on a preachers forum and can't stand the heat you should get out of the kitchen.
Whatever they said to you - at least they did it virtually face to face instead of running to another forum to get backup. You just accused them of worse.
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Old 03-19-2011, 12:50 PM
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Actuall he did. He accused his audience of crucifying Christ
I'm puzzled over how he accussed everyone there of being guilty of crucifying Jesus. That seems like an awful big BROAD BRUSH... Any thoughts?
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Old 03-19-2011, 12:53 PM
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I'm puzzled over how he accussed everyone there of being guilty of crucifying Jesus. That seems like an awful big BROAD BRUSH... Any thoughts?
“So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah!” acts 2:36

But God knew what would happen, and his prearranged plan was carried out when Jesus was betrayed. With the help of lawless Gentiles, you nailed him to a cross and killed him. Acts 2:32
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“So let everyone in Israel know for certain that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, to be both Lord and Messiah!” acts 2:36

But God knew what would happen, and his prearranged plan was carried out when Jesus was betrayed. With the help of lawless Gentiles, you nailed him to a cross and killed him. Acts 2:32
And that is a very big BROAD BRUSH because most of those people probably had nothing to do with Christ's crucifixion at least in the normal way of thinking about it. So how can Peter make that accusation?
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:09 PM
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Quiere decir todo a la vez?
I'm not fluent....
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I don't know if the story is true. The setting is a church service in east Tx. The young preacher wanted to impress the elder that was in this particular service. He preached against cut hair. He preached against makeup. He preached against jewelry.

The woman had reached her lowest point in life. When asking for help someone told her that she could find what she needed at that church.

In the note that she left behind she wrote that the preacher preached against everything that she was. Her hair was cut. She wore makeup. She wore jewelry. There was no point going on if she was already damned to hell.


Sad story. I do not know of anyone that has ended their life after attending an apostolic service. But I'm sure that many have showed up hanging on by a thread only to leave with a feeling of more condemnation and despair. God help us all to consider the weight of our words before we lay them on the backs of the opressed.
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So, let's not preach against adultery lest we offend the adulterer.
Let's not preach against homosexuality lest we offend a homosexual.
Let's not preach against stealing lest a thief be offended.
You guys are hilarious.
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Try reading carefully in the English language. I never mentioned any of those things. That's one of the reasons that many dont hang out here any more- they get tired of words being put in their mouths.

If a homosexual is in a service - is it wrong to preach against the sin of homosexuality? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Bullwinkle, you just confirmed what Charnock has been saying all along. You put the wearing of jewelry in the same category as adultery and homosexuality. How stupid is that?
Apparently your reading comprehension is not what you think it is, Bullwinkle. You made your asinine comment in response to berkley's post, did you not?
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Old 03-19-2011, 03:14 PM
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I think something everyone needs to remember. When a preacher falls into sin his "friends" should not throw him to the curve. All his contacts have been the ministry. Who is he going to turn to if his friends cast him out because of his sin?
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And that is a very big BROAD BRUSH because most of those people probably had nothing to do with Christ's crucifixion at least in the normal way of thinking about it. So how can Peter make that accusation?
This was towards Israel is a nation. It's kind of like saying "The United States promoted slavery back when we were still young as a nation"
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