Thad, for the sake of modesty we're not going to go there. The way most wear them is with skirts that are too short, if they wanted to wear them with a long skirt, I don't have a problem with them doing that, but that's not the style.
Just for our church in Salina.........it won't be happening while we're here. Call me hard-nosed and controlling if you want, but that's the way it's gonna be. We have to give an account and I won't be responsible for that.
okay, we was talking about 2 different things it seems. I didn't know you was referring to the short skirts. I was talking about long skirts worn over those leggies in the cold
so its okay for women to wear men's apparel as long as nobody can see it? not being contentious, just seems to me if its wrong its wrong regardless if they show or not...
Born and raised. Dad was UPC. He past in 1978. I went to UPCI big church in WI for 30 years.
Now I am at a non-UPCI church.
Just have had enough of watching so many folks over the years.
Making their salvation about what they can do to be committed to the Lord.
When all along they should have been focused on the better things.
Such as telling their neighbor and coworkers about the goodness of God.
Not talking in a group at church about how proud they are that they wear the uniform.
In my heart I think it best to let folks decide the non-heaven and hell issues.
Nathan Eckstadt
Well said Neck! What many in the UPC don't realize is that there are many churches (other than UPC) that actually focus on the things of the kingdom.
And this is without the distracting junk about one's personal appearance, and many subjective things about lifestyle. If the word of God is taught, not just the candy-sticks, it actually will produce disciples of Jesus Christ.
Whether or not someone else's teenage daughter wears "leggings" or not does not even register on my spiritual radar. This is absolutely not one iota of my concern, why is it so important that on this forum it draws over 350 posts??? I am actually amazed.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
so its okay for women to wear men's apparel as long as nobody can see it? not being contentious, just seems to me if its wrong its wrong regardless if they show or not...
Leggings are men's apparel???
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Well said Neck! What many in the UPC don't realize is that there are many churches (other than UPC) that actually focus on the things of the kingdom.
And this is without the distracting junk about one's personal appearance, and many subjective things about lifestyle. If the word of God is taught, not just the candy-sticks, it actually will produce disciples of Jesus Christ.
Whether or not someone else's teenage daughter wears "leggings" or not does not even register on my spiritual radar. This is absolutely not one iota of my concern, why is it so important that on this forum it draws over 350 posts??? I am actually amazed.
would you be eager to let your sons wear a dress or skirt ?
would you be eager to let your sons wear a dress or skirt ?
Why do some people bring this up? A dress and skirt in this culture is strictly a woman's garment. Pants in this culture aren't strictly a man's garment, so the comparison is silly.
Funny though, cause 400 years ago, all men wore skirts and nobody thought that was strange. In fact, when men started wearing pants, it was considered immodest to do so.
In many other countries, men wear skirt-like garments. It's a man's garment they wear, even if the women in the same country also wear a skirt-like garment.
It's 2007. Pants aren't exclusively a man's garment and hasn't been for years. Let's live in the present, not in the past.
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We are not under law, in our relationship with God. We are to walk in the spirit, individually and personally in relationship with God. If you will remember the curtain was torn apart, which gave each of us direct access to the Father. We are to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling, however religion does not trust the Spirit of God, therefore all kinds of "standards" must be imposed to try to keep folks in a particular "religious tent". Religion is failing, but God will never fail.
What does this look like? I don't know for sure, but there are home church fellowships in the Dallas area with over 30,000 members. God does not fit into any box, he will come where folks are gathered in His Name, whether an organized group or a fellowship. The fellowships appear to resemble the book of Acts church more than much in many organizations.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
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