I have Left the UPC Church

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by philjones

D4T,

I am late to the party.. I apologize!

While I understand that there are men who seem to fill a particular office in the 5 fold ministry, I am of the opinion that every minister should, at various times, be used in all 5 offices of the five fold ministry as the need of the body, the church, dictates. Every minister should be apt to teach, to pastor, to evangelize, to prophesy, and to operate as an apostle or establishmentarian (just for AtlantaBishop)

What is your opinion on my view?

Good!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by philjones

D4T,

I am late to the party.. I apologize!

While I understand that there are men who seem to fill a particular office in the 5 fold ministry, I am of the opinion that every minister should, at various times, be used in all 5 offices of the five fold ministry as the need of the body, the church, dictates. Every minister should be apt to teach, to pastor, to evangelize, to prophesy, and to operate as an apostle or establishmentarian (just for AtlantaBishop)

What is your opinion on my view?

Hmmm ... I think some have multiple gifts ... but the Apostle seems to stress the word some ... in his passage ....

He gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Daniel, her not being UPC anymore is the absolute least of my concerns.

Okay, make that, because she doesn't believe a hardline Acts 2:38 and hold standards anymore.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

As gently as I can say this, I have to assert that areas of clear violation of Scriptural principles (and I am not talking about standards) are indicators that all might not be well as far as heart condition and desire for truth goes.

Well, what has been clearly violated? Or are you privy to information that the board is not?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

No, a peek into Michelle's words and her own report of her actions.

I love Michelle in the Lord, and have prayed for her often and will continue to.

But when people withdraw and isolate themselves from the influences that God has ordained, in clear opposition to the Scripture, it is what it is.

Hmm. What has been in clear oppostion? Is she failing to attend a church? Getting drunk? Smoking dope? Trimming her hair? What?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

All ANYONE can do is choose who to submit to, otherwise everyone would have to stay in whatever philosophy/religion they first come into contact with, whether that be Christianity, Hindu, Budhism, etc.

Yesterday at work, someone had something terrible happen and they yelled the Lord's name in vain. My very liberal co-worker, who knows I am a Christian looked at me grinning. I said "Why doesn't anyboy, when they get angry say "Buddha!" or "Allah!". Maybe they do in other countries. I don't know.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Timmy

There are many who believe they have a right heart and desire truth who have not found the same truth as the Apostolics. Of course, when that happens, the Apostolics simply proclaim that they didn't have a right heart and/or didn't desire truth. Very convenient.

Too convenient.

Originally Posted by ILG

Yesterday at work, someone had something terrible happen and they yelled the Lord's name in vain. My very liberal co-worker, who knows I am a Christian looked at me grinning. I said "Why doesn't anyboy, when they get angry say "Buddha!" or "Allah!". Maybe they do in other countries. I don't know.

Hmmm, I will try that next time I slam my finger in the door.

"Oh, Buddha!"

I believe that Allah is still God, just in a different language since they are talking about the same God of Moses...

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

Hmmm, I will try that next time I slam my finger in the door.

"Oh, Buddha!"

I believe that Allah is still God, just in a different language since they are talking about the same God of Moses...

I don't, but I think all people who take the name of the Lord in vain should say Buddha or Allah instead. You know, it just doesn't have the same effect. I believe that people who call God Allah may be worshipping the true God in their hearts, but I think that Allah is a very different God than Jesus.

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Nate, you're less important than fried FISH!!!

So... that means you're really NOT all that and a bag of CHIPS!...

Get it? Fish... and chips???



Appeals to his favorite lurker...

Hi RAY!!! Did that make you chuckle?

Sure did

Soon you'll be pronouncing "aluminium" in a funny accent