Gay Marriage: For or Against?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Coadie... you know what I mean. Cultivating the righteousness of Christ in our individual lives. Jeesh.

That is works salvation. Got to be born again.
There is none righteous, no, not one

You run from the subject. Pushing gay marriage is coupled with the self righteousness in the politically correct movement.
The gay agenda is to use the legalizing of gay marriage to validate the lifestyle.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

That is works salvation. Got to be born again.
There is none righteous, no, not one

Coadie... the righteousness of Christ is imputed. We cultivate that by relationship, and it all begins with grace through faith.

You run from the subject. Pushing gay marriage is coupled with the self righteousness in the politically correct movement.
The gay agenda is to use the legalizing of gay marriage to validate the lifestyle.

Yes, some think that legalizing gay marriage will validate their lifestyle. They'll be sadly mistaken when they realize that nothing has changed but their tax forms. Most churches will still refuse to recognize their unions.

Actually, if you think about it... you're teaching a works salvation. You're teaching that if we don't act politically against this that we're lost reprobates. In other words we have to abide by the letter of the Theonomist agenda or we are somehow "wrong". Being a believer in liberty and justice for all Americans, even those we disagree with eludes you. You don't realize how sacred freedom and liberty are... even when men choose to use that very same freedom and liberty to do what we don't agree with. You don't want them forcing you to live their way or accept their agenda. But you want to force your ways and your agenda upon them. Freedom of conscience in the individual lives of individual citizens is necessary to maintain the social fabric of a free nation.

You're becoming like them Coadie. You're loosing your vision in the midst of the fight. When the battle isn't even yours. It's the LORD's.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Like saying that I support the "Gay Agenda" just because I believe personal liberty in regards to private and intimate details of our lives? Libertarian maybe... part of the Gay Agenda... no.

Privacy laws. That was how the liberals got abortion legalized and Texas had sodomy laws over turned. Too bad you can't hide behind privacy laws when using drugs.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia referred to the "so-called homosexual agenda" in Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003) (dissenting opinion).
Our supreme court has a justice that calls it!!!

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Coadie... the righteousness of Christ is imputed. We cultivate that by relationship, and it all begins with grace through faith.



Yes, some think that legalizing gay marriage will validate their lifestyle. They'll be sadly mistaken when they realize that nothing has changed but their tax forms. Most churches will still refuse to recognize their unions.

Actually, if you think about it... you're teaching a works salvation. You're teaching that if we don't act politically against this that we're lost reprobates. In other words we have to abide by the letter of the Theonomist agenda or we are somehow "wrong". Being a believer in liberty and justice for all Americans, even those we disagree with eludes you. You don't realize how sacred freedom and liberty are... even when men choose to use that very same freedom and liberty to do what we don't agree with. You don't want them forcing you to live their way or accept their agenda. But you want to force your ways and your agenda upon them. Freedom of conscience in the individual lives of individual citizens is necessary to maintain the social fabric of a free nation.

Ye must be born again. Remember I posted it? That is what I teach and now you say I teach works salvation? Try to become honest and cut and paste what i post.

That is works salvation. Got to be born again.
There is none righteous, no, not one

Post # 341.

Actually it begins by blood shed on the Cross.

Also Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins.

Politically correctness is dangerous easy believeism.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Privacy laws. That was how the liberals got abortion legalized and Texas had sodomy laws over turned.

First, what a man and woman choose to consentually do together behind closed doors is none of the Government's business. Second, what any other two Americans choose to consentually do together in the privacy of their own home is none of the Government's business. Thirdly, it's also none of your business (unless you're an unrelenting pervert obsessed with the private actions of others).

Too bad you can't hide behind privacy laws when using drugs.

Depends on the drug. I can take as much asprin or motrin as I choose. I can also drink as much wine, whiskey, brandy, vodka, or beer as I choose in my own home. I don't have to report purchase of it or it's use to the government unless I'm endangering the life of another. I can also purchase as much coffee and make as much of it as I like. I can also buy cigarrettes, cigars, clove cigarrettes, pipe tobacco, and hookahs. I can also use them at will should I choose.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia referred to the "so-called homosexual agenda" in Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003) (dissenting opinion).
Our supreme court has a justice that calls it!!!

Justice Scalia might believe in UFOs for all I know. He's not the dictator. We have the Constitution. Here's what it says...

Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

All Americans are secured privacy in their own homes and with regards to their own property, and even their "persons" (bodies). The government authorities need a warrant/probable cause to enter into your property, to detain and control you, or to seize anything you own.

This applies to all Americans.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Ye must be born again. Remember I posted it? That is what I teach and now you say I teach works salvation? Try to become honest and cut and paste what i post.


Post # 341.

Actually it begins by blood shed on the Cross.

Also Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins.

Politically correctness is dangerous easy believeism.

You're splitting hairs Coadie. Find some Meds.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

First, what a man and woman choose to consentually do together behind closed doors is none of the Government's business. Second, what any other two Americans choose to consentually do together in the privacy of their own home is none of the Government's business. Thirdly, it's also none of your business (unless you're an unrelenting pervert obsessed with the private actions of others).



Depends on the drug. I can take as much asprin or motrin as I choose. I can also drink as much wine, whiskey, brandy, vodka, or beer as I choose in my own home. I don't have to report purchase of it or it's use to the government unless I'm endangering the life of another. I can also purchase as much coffee and make as much of it as I like. I can also buy cigarrettes, cigars, clove cigarrettes, pipe tobacco, and hookahs. I can also use them at will.



Justice Scalia might believe in UFOs for all I know. He's not the dictator. We have the Constitution. Here's what it says...

Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

All Americans are secured privacy in their own homes and with regards to their own property, and even their "persons" (bodies). The government authorities need a warrant/probable cause to enter into your property, to detain and control you, or to seize anything you own.

This applies to all Americans.

I take it you didn't read Scalia

What were they seizing?

Child porn is busted by "violating" priivacy laws.

Attorney General Spitzer wouldn't be crazy enough to think it would cover him.

I add this. Spitzer was also indicted using the Patriot act which is a massive privacy buster. On another thread, the privacy issues for muslim fund raising was the reason we needed the Patriot act.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You're splitting hairs Coadie. Find some Meds.

I don't do "meds"

When people lose an argument, it turns into insults.
I notice you misquote me deliberately and then think you have an argument.

The gay agenda is loaded with misquotes and false claims.

[coadie]

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia referred to the "so-called homosexual agenda" in Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003) (dissenting opinion).
Our supreme court has a justice that calls it!!!

Earlier I mentioned the mental illness of homosexual behavior is also co morbid with other illnesses very often.
The dangerous fetishes are an additional problem. In SF ca they are now counselling safety in sado masochism because there were too many deaths.

[coadie]

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...indonesia-aids

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