Gay Marriage: For or Against?

[DAII]

Originally Posted by coadie

Do you think a gay couple can be biological parents?

Rumours of pedophilia and child molestation by gays have also long persisted. In the study, 23% of respondents admitted to having had sex with youths aged 13-15 (p. 275), while 19% felt positive about sexual activity within this age group (p. 276).

The Gay Report by Karla Jay and Allen Young, Summit Books, New York, 1979).




How do you know?
Sodom and Gomoroh were a radical fringe group. Tried to have sex with strangers.

Why are gay advocates so pushy?

Happens every Friday night ... and Monday nights too after initial encounter at your local tavern, library and supermarket ... among heteros.

This is not the definition of fringe ... either, Coadie. Can you follow simple cause and effect?
Or are you locked in ...

Get a grip ... get some balance ... temperance. Seriously.

[coadie]

What does the bible say? Explain why the bible doesn't mention a single gay marriage

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[coadie]

Originally Posted by DAII

You may need to go back.

And work on your proof texting and faulty hermeneutic ...

And learn the definition of WICKED.

Are you referring to the rainbow hermeneutics?

There is a bible college grad lesbian that uses your template. She is on CARM or was on CARM.

They also add this one.

David and Jonathan enjoyed a romantic sexual relationship

Then Jonathan stripped himself of his robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his sword, and even his armor and bow and girdle. {Sam 18:1-4}

When advocates of gay marriage come along, we see the same tactics.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by coadie

Are you referring to the rainbow hermeneutics?

There is a bible college grad lesbian that uses your template. She is on CARM or was on CARM.

They also add this one.


Then Jonathan stripped himself of his robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his sword, and even his armor and bow and girdle. {Sam 18:1-4}

When advocates of gay marriage come along, we see the same tactics.

More hyperbole and guilt by association .....

but no substance ...

your theology lacks balance ... and an inability to realize almost everyone on this thread recognizes that homosexuality is a sin among the many sins humans fall prey too ...

I don't think that verse proves a homosexual relationship anymore than your proof texting and forcing of an interpretation of the Genesis account ... both are violence to God's Word.

Yet your ineptitude to show the BIBLICAL causes for God's wrath over Sodom and Gomorrah remain as a testament on this thread for posterity ... as to your inability to reason with the Word or logic.

Yet somehow you feel vindicated because you found a translation that supports your screwy hermeneutic ... what's next will we start quoting from Thomas Jefferson's translation ... or the JW's as vindication for heretical teaching?

You will remain a fringe part of Christianity ... as longs as balance eludes you.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

What does the bible say? Explain why the bible doesn't mention a single gay marriage

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The Bible isn't civil law. The Bible is given to govern the church... not the world. It relates to us... not sinful society. We are to live and abide by it's principles regardless as to what society accepts legally. There is no doubt that such marriages will not be accepted in biblical churches. So honestly, it doesn't mean anything accept that biblically a biblical church shouldn't recognize such unions among it's membership.

The conflict is that we are a free nation built on the presupposition that all men are created equal. That all men are to live free as long as they are not endangering the life, liberty, or property of another. That every man has a right to live free according to their conscience.

Just as biblical churches shouldn't accept those who remarry under unbiblical circumstances, neither should we accept gay marriage. However, who of us would advocate using the police power of Government to ban second marriages, unless it was proven that the one remarrying wasn't the offending party guilty of adultery in their first marriage?

As far as civil liberties are concerned... a couple can remarry regardless of the circumstances surrounding their first marriage and divorce. They are free individuals. I see gay marriage similarly. While churches will not recognize it, this is a free country.

I also feel that we exaust valuable time and resources trying to use the law to control other Americans we disagree with while we should be using our time and resources on reaching our world.

The best thing we can do for America is preach the Gospel. Politics is a modern return to law keeping to create a social righteousness that doesn't save when we should be cultivating individual righteousness that will save.

[coadie]

What does the bible say? Explain why the bible doesn't mention a single gay marriage

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[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Politics is a modern return to law keeping to create a social righteousness that doesn't save when we should be cultivating individual righteousness that will save.

Please show scriptures that say cultivating individual righteousness will save.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Please show scriptures that say cultivating individual righteousness will save.

Coadie... you know what I mean. Cultivating the righteousness of Christ in our individual lives. Jeesh.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by DAII

More hyperbole and guilt by association .....

but no substance ...

your theology lacks balance ... and an inability to realize almost everyone on this thread recognizes that homosexuality is a sin among the many sins humans fall prey too ...

I don't think that verse proves a homosexual relationship anymore than your proof texting and forcing of an interpretation of the Genesis account ... both are violence to God's Word.

Yet your ineptitude to show the BIBLICAL causes for God's wrath over Sodom and Gomorrah remain as a testament on this thread for posterity ... as to your inability to reason with the Word or logic.

Yet somehow you feel vindicated because you found a translation that supports your screwy hermeneutic ... what's next will we start quoting from Thomas Jefferson's translation ... or the JW's as vindication for heretical teaching?

You will remain a fringe part of Christianity ... as longs as balance eludes you.

I use the King James. Is that a source of screwy hermenutics?

Would you still insist that Abraham and Lot in the writings of Moses also had no idea what was behind the wrath of God but you do?
Just a little secret. They didn't read Ezekiel.

Violence to God's Word is a dishonest charge. Exagerating is a deliberate form of dishonesty.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

I use the King James. Is that a source of screwy hermenutics?

Would you still insist that Abraham and Lot in the writings of Moses also had no idea what was behind the wrath of God but you do?
Just a little secret. They didn't read Ezekiel.

Violence to God's Word is a dishonest charge. Exagerating is a deliberate form of dishonesty.

Like saying that I support the "Gay Agenda" just because I believe personal liberty in regards to private and intimate details of our lives? Libertarian maybe... part of the Gay Agenda... no.