Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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TSA operating procedures require a witness to be present during private screening. The witness may be another TSA Security Officer or someone that is traveling with you.
If cleared, you and your valuables will be allowed to enter the sterile side of the airport.
Private screening is also available to individuals randomly selected for screening at the airline gate.
We recommend that you carry these items with you at all times.
Currency Reporting: For international flights, you must report the transport of $10,000.00 USD or more to the U.S. Customs Service.
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The understood statement here is that amounts under 10k have no need to be reported.
Great thread. it is a lesson that we don't need to tolerate unprofessional and intrusive bad behavior by screeners. It says 10,000 must be reported. This again doesn't apply unless going thru international customs. it doesn't even hint 5 times that is illegal. I had an employee marry a lady in Venezuela. They of course had a limit on how much of their currency on their end could leave their country with her. it did not tell the man how much the US would allow him to bring in in the form of american dollars in his ownership.
They pick the left extreme of the bell curve folks that don't have formal education nor travel experience.
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I'm trying not to let my caller hear me typing! lol
I think the "cleared" gives them some room to maneuver.
If one wanted to become a law unto themselves and press this issue beyond the guidelines then they could use this helpful article which is not part of the guidelines or the code and use that as "room to maneuver" and exceed the code & guidelines that clearly spell out their given and granted authority.
So... Yes ma'am.
It could be used in that way.
But it would be a misuse and abuse of power if it were done.
This is not a guideline you have quoted. This is a helpful hint from your friendly TSA.
Only someone with an occupational death wish would try to use this in any court to back up why they did what they did.
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by coadie
Great thread. it is a lesson that we don't need to tolerate unprofessional and intrusive bad behavior by screeners. It says 10,000 must be reported. This again doesn't apply unless going thru international customs. it doesn't even hint 5 times that is illegal. I had an employee marry a lady in Venezuela. They of course had a limit on how much of their currency on their end could leave their country with her. it did not tell the man how much the US would allow him to bring in in the form of american dollars in his ownership.
They pick the left extreme of the bell curve folks that don't have formal education nor travel experience.
Indeed... and the understood statement in that is that $9,999 does not need to be reported... but... for your safety.. if you have $9,999 then we will screen you in private.
Otherwise... have a nice day and thanks for flying Southwest.
It is becoming abundantly and increasingly clear that this is, by all definitions, a non issue.
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
If one wanted to become a law unto themselves and press this issue beyond the guidelines then they could use this helpful article which is not part of the guidelines or the code and use that as "room to maneuver" and exceed the code & guidelines that clearly spell out their given and granted authority.
So... Yes ma'am.
It could be used in that way.
But it would be a misuse and abuse of power if it were done.
This is not a guideline you have quoted. This is a helpful hint from your friendly TSA.
Only someone with an occupational death wish would try to use this in any court to back up why they did what they did.
Okay, off the phone. lol
Let's see - yes, I think you could abuse this power. I have something else I need to take care of and then I will research a bit more. Something is still bothering me. I need to find out what that is.
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Okay, off the phone. lol
Let's see - yes, I think you could abuse this power. I have something else I need to take care of and then I will research a bit more. Something is still bothering me. I need to find out what that is.
Could it be that this is not turning out that you are right?
This tends to be a very bothersome issue... especially for the female of the species...
(Running for the hills boys... I know this gal... and she's got a GUN) (which makes her suspicious wouldn't you say?)
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I'm trying not to let my caller hear me typing! lol
I think the "cleared" gives them some room to maneuver.
You seem to still be confused. It means clearing customs. This topic seems to be going off track. Domestic travel is not international travel. TSA inspects domestic for weapons and "cleared" means none found. cleared means inspection has ended.
Cleared in customes means inspected, cleared for entry into the country. That includes "declaring no fruits, veges, unprocessed foods, weapons, artifacts over a certain value, Pharm drugs, paying duties, proof of citizenship in order,
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by coadie
You seem to still be confused. It means clearing customs. This topic seems to be going off track. Domestic travel is not international travel. TSA inspects domestic for weapons and "cleared" means none found. cleared means inspection has ended.
Cleared in customes means inspected, cleared for entry into the country. That includes "declaring no fruits, veges, unprocessed foods, weapons, artifacts over a certain value, Pharm drugs, paying duties, proof of citizenship in order,
Indeed...
And... there were checks in the box written out to Ron Paul as well as Campaign For Liberty.
So the entire $4700, as I understand it, wasn't cash.
Re: Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airpo
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Indeed...
And... there were checks in the box written out to Ron Paul as well as Campaign For Liberty.
So the entire $4700, as I understand it, wasn't cash.
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May 9, 2006
Operations Directive
OD-400-54-2: Discovery of Contraband During the Screening Process
Expiration: Indefinite
Summary
This directive provides guidance to ensure nationwide consistency in the appropriate referral or initiation of civil enforcement actions for incidents involving discovery of contraband during TSA screening procedures.
Procedures
When TSA discovers contraband during the screening process that is not a TSA Prohibited Item, the matter should be referred to the local Law Enforcement Officers as appropriate. An Enforcement Investigative Report should not be initiated.
Examples of such contraband include:
* Illegal drugs
* Drug paraphernalia * Large amounts of cash ($10,000)
Point of Contact
Kimberly Siro, Office of Compliance, (571) 227-[REDACTED] (work), [REDACTED] (cell), or email to avopsinsp@dhs.gov.
/s/
Jonathan J. Fleming
Chief Operating Officer
Is TSA within their rights when this piece says - "When TSA discovers contraband during the screening process that is not a TSA Prohibited Item,..."
It looks like they are covering their bases. What do you think, Digging or should I ask Stew? LOL!
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