Jasser represents what I believe to be the view of most Muslims. However, he points out that the majority of Imams one has a chance to hear, believe in some form of political islam that is ant-thetical to American liberty/seperation of church and state.
Jasser is a brilliant guy.
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You dare to call Muslim countries violent??? LOL MY family can safely walk the streets here and they sure couldnt do that in Houston......I am not aware of a murder, rape, assault, or burglery in this area in the 2 years that I have lived here. How 'bout you?
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Yeah, all the terrorists of 9/11 are dead....? No, they are not!! They are still trying to find ways to attack this country. It is only their ignorant foot soldiers that are dead. They are probing every day to try to find a way to slip thru.
You dare to call Muslim countries violent??? LOL MY family can safely walk the streets here and they sure couldnt do that in Houston......I am not aware of a murder, rape, assault, or burglery in this area in the 2 years that I have lived here. How 'bout you?
The sacred festivals are dangerous.
The worst stampede happened in 1990, when 1,426 pilgrims were trampled to death
The six-day pilgrimage ends with a four-day feast called the Eid al-Adha.
Among the rites during the Hajj are the circling of the Ka'aba, the stone building Muslims believe was originally built by Abraham and his son Ishmael.
Wrong again. The Kabaa was a place of pagan worship. It was cleaned out and dedicated as a place of worship to the God of Abraham.
1990? We were talking about violent crime not accidental death. Banner year for YOUR community. Lets have a quick peek. 23,440 murders. 102,560 rapes. 639,270 robberies. 1,054,860 assaults. 3.07 million burgleries.
OH your festivals are safe? Same year, 1990, 1770 alcohol related deaths during the christmas/new year holiday alone? Unlike your (single) instance, this happens year after year after year and holiday after holiday.
Yeah, you have a nice, peaceful place built to bray at others from. Too bad you can't go outside at night to do it. Remember what you make of yourself when you bray.....LOL
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The sacred festivals are dangerous.
The worst stampede happened in 1990, when 1,426 pilgrims were trampled to death
The six-day pilgrimage ends with a four-day feast called the Eid al-Adha.
Among the rites during the Hajj are the circling of the Ka'aba, the stone building Muslims believe was originally built by Abraham and his son Ishmael.
You dare to call Muslim countries violent??? LOL MY family can safely walk the streets here and they sure couldnt do that in Houston......I am not aware of a murder, rape, assault, or burglery in this area in the 2 years that I have lived here. How 'bout you?
Are you calling Saudi Arabia a free and peaceful nation. Can your wife vote or walk in the streets without the scarf, and be safe? And she drive herself to the market?
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You dare to call Muslim countries violent??? LOL MY family can safely walk the streets here and they sure couldnt do that in Houston......I am not aware of a murder, rape, assault, or burglery in this area in the 2 years that I have lived here. How 'bout you?
He is not aware of it coadie, so that means it hasnt happened ! No religous police.No stonings because they were caught with someone other than their husband. Everything is very peaceful over there,no one emigrating here from there, crime is too high here.I think we should ship all the arabs back on humantarian grounds, its the christian thing to do. not safe over here nope nope!
Wrong again. The Kabaa was a place of pagan worship. It was cleaned out and dedicated as a place of worship to the God of Abraham.
1990? We were talking about violent crime not accidental death. Banner year for YOUR community. Lets have a quick peek. 23,440 murders. 102,560 rapes. 639,270 robberies. 1,054,860 assaults. 3.07 million burgleries.
OH your festivals are safe? Same year, 1990, 1770 alcohol related deaths during the christmas/new year holiday alone? Unlike your (single) instance, this happens year after year after year and holiday after holiday.
Yeah, you have a nice, peaceful place built to bray at others from. Too bad you can't go outside at night to do it. Remember what you make of yourself when you bray.....LOL
Yeah, that's the deception that you have bought into. In sixty years I have never been assualted, broken into or in any way molested in my city. Of course, there are always evil people that will take advantage of a free society.
Let's talk about Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Syria, Eygpt, and then we can go on from there.
Let's talk about all the peaceful Muslim nations, you have not listed one.
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Talk about them all you want. Surely you have some statistics - feel free to compare them. Tell u what: Let's compare violent death rates from wartime Iraq: It was much, much, much higher than (any of) your listed countries.
2006: Violent deaths 13,738. In a population of 28,807,000. Violent death rate: 56.49 per 100k residents. It is the year of highest violent death rate for that country.
Violent death rates around the country, per 100k residents:
Washington: 83.1
Gary, In 58
New Orleans: 67.5
Detroit: 60
Atlanta: 57.7
St Louis: 63.4
Yeah, that's deception.
Bought into? I live here. I lived there. I grew up there. Unlike you I have first-hand experience all over the middle east and asia.
Peaceful?
Turkey is a member of NATO. Turkey is a Muslim nation
Indonesia is a staunch ally of the US and also is a Muslim nation. Indonesia has more Muslims than all of the mideast combined
Malaysia is a Muslim nation and has more muslims than all of the mideast combined
You are saying Egypt is not a peaceful nation? Have you been there? You have not LOL
Lebanon is a christian nation. You must have gone to public school
Bahrain is peaceful and is a Muslim nation. The US 5th fleet is stationed there
The Emirates are peaceful and are Muslim nations. The US army/marine ground forces are stationed there
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Yeah, that's the deception that you have bought into. In sixty years I have never been assualted, broken into or in any way molested in my city. Of course, there are always evil people that will take advantage of a free society.
Let's talk about Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Syria, Eygpt, and then we can go on from there.
Let's talk about all the peaceful Muslim nations, you have not listed one.
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Vote? You DO know Saudi is run by a royal family? Free? No. Peaceful? Yes
My wife is not Saudi. IN her own country she can walk the street safely with or without a head scarf, vote, and drive a car.
My wife comes from a Muslim country. A peaceful one LOL
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Are you calling Saudi Arabia a free and peaceful nation. Can your wife vote or walk in the streets without the scarf, and be safe? And she drive herself to the market?
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