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Old 09-28-2017, 07:11 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

Why does it not just say God was made flesh. Why word?
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Here we have people saying God which is a spirit was made flesh. But could it also mean the spoken word of God, which proceeds out of God was made flesh which also made the first Adam etc.?

I don't it is saying the Spirit was made flesh, but the voice of the Spirit.
It is the WORD. The Word was God, and was made flesh.

If the Word was the voice, and was made flesh, then the voice was made flesh.

But we read the Word was God, and was made flesh. So then God was made flesh.
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Just what was John trying to tell us?
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It is the WORD. The Word was God, and was made flesh.

If the Word was the voice, and was made flesh, then the voice was made flesh.

But we read the Word was God, and was made flesh. So then God was made flesh.
Okay, God was made flesh not just His word. Have it your way.
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Why does it not just say God was made flesh. Why word?
Good question. What was the Word?

Whatever it was, it was God. And John calls the Word "he", so the Word is not just an "it" but a "he". Which makes sense, because the Word was God.

And he, the Word, who was God, was made flesh.
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What percentage of God was made flesh?
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Good question. What was the Word?

Whatever it was, it was God. And John calls the Word "he", so the Word is not just an "it" but a "he". Which makes sense, because the Word was God.

And he, the Word, who was God, was made flesh.
I agree, God has a voice. His voice is inseparable from Him. It is the working part of creation. I t is like the hands used by a builder.
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Okay, God was made flesh not just His word. Have it your way.
YOU YOURSELF saw how if the Word was the voice, and the Word was made flesh, then the voice was made flesh.

YOUR OWN REASONING demands that if the Word was GOD, and the Word was made flesh, then GOD WAS MADE FLESH.

Because John didn't say "And the Word was the voice." Nope, he said "And the Word was GOD."
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Notice that the term word and made are used in creating the world's and making Jesus in the same context. The word is the creative part of God notice that the term word and made are used in creating the world's and making Jesus in the same context. The Word is the creating part of God.
But God is not merely a word.
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I agree, God has a voice. His voice is inseparable from Him. It is the working part of creation. I t is like the hands used by a builder.
Why do you insert commentary into the text about this "voice" thing?

Let's just stay with the Scripture, okay?

So, the Word, WHO was God, was made flesh. So WHO (not "what") was made flesh? That's right, the Word. And who was this Word? GOD.

So the Word, who was God, who made everything that was made, was made flesh and dwelt among us.

Who was in the beginning, and made everything, Sean?

According to Moses, that would be God (Genesis 1:1). And we know that God is the LORD who made everything ALL BY HIMSELF (Isaiah 44:24).

So the only One, who was in the beginning, who made everything all by Himself, who is called the LORD and Jehovah, that's who the Word was.

And that's who was made flesh.
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