44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
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Acts 4:32
2 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
KJV
Haven´t seen much of this practiced...and this is a NT scripure not an OT war scripture...
Sister A, that surely is in the bible, however there is no admoishon that all beleivers do the same. it would not be wrong for a body of believers to practice such, but there is no command in scripture that we all do so.
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you better be living by those principles! however once again I find someone complaining about something without bothering to include the context.
is there an anti-contex virus going around?
Ferd, I love you but you know that, as a movement, we have a huge issue with conforming to only those things that fit our traditions. We say we are Apostolic, why is it that we don't follow Apostolic principles like caring for the widows and elderly? This was a huge issue in the first century church.
I'll tell you why. It doesn't fit what we want our church to be like. We view this sort of ministry as welfare and we are wrong. God will judge us harshly for our laziness and selfishness.
And then we whine and whine about stupid things that have no basis in God's word. Shorts, jewelry, television and the like. We're more worried about appearance than we are if someone is alone, and hurting, and hungry.
Ferd, I love you but you know that, as a movement, we have a huge issue with conforming to only those things that fit our traditions. We say we are Apostolic, why is it that we don't follow Apostolic principles like caring for the widows and elderly? This was a huge issue in the first century church.
I'll tell you why. It doesn't fit what we want our church to be like. We view this sort of ministry as welfare and we are wrong. God will judge us harshly for our laziness and selfishness.
And then we whine and whine about stupid things that have no basis in God's word. Shorts, jewelry, television and the like. We're more worried about appearance than we are if someone is alone, and hurting, and hungry.
I don't for a moment believe that God is pleased.
This has always been a concern of mine too! It's not only a church problem it's a society problem, however, the church is missing the opportunity to make a difference.
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Ferd, I love you but you know that, as a movement, we have a huge issue with conforming to only those things that fit our traditions. We say we are Apostolic, why is it that we don't follow Apostolic principles like caring for the widows and elderly? This was a huge issue in the first century church.
I'll tell you why. It doesn't fit what we want our church to be like. We view this sort of ministry as welfare and we are wrong. God will judge us harshly for our laziness and selfishness.
And then we whine and whine about stupid things that have no basis in God's word. Shorts, jewelry, television and the like. We're more worried about appearance than we are if someone is alone, and hurting, and hungry.
I don't for a moment believe that God is pleased.
I am not suggesting that there is nothing to what you are saying. however, I think by and large, you are picking and choosing! last sunday in my church we had a special offering for a family in need. this is something that happens thou not often, from time to time. Our pastor has preached these principles more than once in the year he has been here as pastor. and not a single time on a laundry list of the stuff he doesnt think we should wear!
(back to that whole who gets to do the carving on men's hearts thing)
I sure am glad my church experience has not been what so many around here say theirs was.
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I am not suggesting that there is nothing to what you are saying. however, I think by and large, you are picking and choosing! last sunday in my church we had a special offering for a family in need. this is something that happens thou not often, from time to time. Our pastor has preached these principles more than once in the year he has been here as pastor. and not a single time on a laundry list of the stuff he doesnt think we should wear!
(back to that whole who gets to do the carving on men's hearts thing)
I sure am glad my church experience has not been what so many around here say theirs was.
Renda,
This past Sunday, while visiting Bro. J. Kilgore's church, I was impressed witht he plea he made from the pulpit regarding a family in the church who had endured hardships. He asked that someone who had the means to give a car, contribute to buying a car, or would lend a car to this family until they could get up on their feet. The Carpenter husband had sustained an injury on the job that ended in several of his fingers being cut off so that he was unable to work as a Carpenter any longer. Had I had an extra car or the money I would have given it to this family.
I remember when I was growing up in the church and my father, who was an alcoholic, had several car accidents that others were hurt in and because he had no assets, they put our family in trusteeship. All the furniture in our house was seized. We were only allowed a home and a car. Within 24 hours the church people had totally refurnished our home with furniture even better than what we had. Did my father deserve the punishment? Absolutely, but he had a wife and 5 children who also sufferred the repercussions of his actions. The church was there for us.
The church today is getting back on track...if they would help their saints and those in the community that they can help, the church would grow, and the government would have money to help those who really needed it. Somehwere along the line the government stepped in to what was the church's responsibility. Healing the hurting, comforting the widows and fatherless, setting at liberty those who are bound by all manner of addictions...
The church is stepping up and the reason should be love...not because people do or don't measure up to our dress and conduct standards.
I should have said, 'pants are not ONLY men's clothing in our society'.
I have a novel idea you should wear "normal" modest clothing, my grandpa said just look around son, you are looking at the reason god made clothing, lol,dt
Ferd, I love you but you know that, as a movement, we have a huge issue with conforming to only those things that fit our traditions. We say we are Apostolic, why is it that we don't follow Apostolic principles like caring for the widows and elderly? This was a huge issue in the first century church.
I'll tell you why. It doesn't fit what we want our church to be like. We view this sort of ministry as welfare and we are wrong. God will judge us harshly for our laziness and selfishness.
And then we whine and whine about stupid things that have no basis in God's word. Shorts, jewelry, television and the like. We're more worried about appearance than we are if someone is alone, and hurting, and hungry.
I don't for a moment believe that God is pleased.
AE i agree with you, god is not pleased and we do spend to much time and waste to much energy on things that are our own preferences, but wait we have to make others conform and agree with us, goodness, dt
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