I Have AIDS

[Newman]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

1Cor13....charity..............thinketh no evil KJV

7Love bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, its hopes are fadeless under all circumstances, and it endures everything [without weakening].AMP

mizpeh- I don't think that "thinketh no evil" in the context written stands for the idea that we should "think the best of one another, that's where we should begin and then minister as the need dictates."

My understanding in the brief time considering the issue would be that "thinketh no evil" in the context written, stands for the idea of not harboring grudges.

If we were never able to think evil of someone; there would be no need for locks, reference checks, or prisons.

Both Jesus and Paul made it very clear that all that claim to be of God are not and we should KNOW that. There are multiple, multiple Scriptures that support recognizing evil people and purpose, not disregarding it.

As but one example; Paul wrote "For I know this, that after my departing shall grevious wolves enter in among you, (my emphasis) not sparing the flock.

Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

Therefore, watch and remember by the space of three years I ceased not to warn everyone night and day with tears (Acts 20:31).

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I may be labeled here, but I still smell a rat.

Too much doesn't add up...but carry on.

I smelt it two.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I may be labeled here, but I still smell a rat.

Too much doesn't add up...but carry on.

At least, there was a warning of the possibility... What more can one do?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Newman

At least, there was a warning of the possibility... What more can you do?

That's about it.

There is a bigger agenda here than just this sad individual we are discussing.

There is an underlying ideological issue that serves as an undercurrent.

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by Thad

Newman
everyone does not have the mind of a lawyer where every dot and tiddle is well thought out and all bases are covered from the beginning to end. I understand that you probably think more analytical but such but a person in this postion may be writing out of feeling. when you have a death sentence and you're dying you might think from a different angle.

also, one cannot control the speed of a thread. I'm sure you know all too well how a person may not be able to come back and respond right away, sometimes for a few days or so.

having said that, I certainly understand the concerns that have been raised by some of the posters here. red flags were rightfully raised on many fronts. anyone who cannot understand this is strictly viewing the issue through emotion.

I commend CC for balancing his post with rational reasoning coupled with mercy, warmth and compassion.

Who are you, and what have you done with Thad?!?!?

There were only TWO misspelled words in that post!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by crakjak

If we begin with I Cor. chapter 13, then reference from there we get God's approach and attitude toward others.

Who did Jesus minister to? He said the well have no need of doctors, it is the sick that He has called us to minister.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I may be labeled here, but I still smell a rat.

Too much doesn't add up...but carry on.

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

That's about it.

There is a bigger agenda here than just this sad individual we are discussing.

There is an underlying ideological issue that serves as an undercurrent.

Yes , there is an underlying ideological issue ... it's called the ideology of LOVE.

[Coonskinner]

I will endeavor to make this my last post on this debacle of a thread.

No one, and certainly not me, has suggested that this or any other individual should not be loved and prayed for.

But we have a Scriptural responsibility not to be deceived, and to exercise discernment.

Part of the agenda is to paint those who are cautious and careful about deception as unloving. This is not true.

But anyway, I am done with this.

Carry on.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I will endeavor to make this my last post on this debacle of a thread.

No one, and certainly not me, has suggested that this or any other individual should not be loved and prayed for.

But we have a Scriptural responsibility not to be deceived, and to exercise discernment.

Part of the agenda is to paint those who are cautious and careful about deception as unloving. This is not true.

But anyway, I am done with this.

Carry on.

let me add just one thing...along the line of Scriptural responsibility.....

to do our best to get those who need repentance to do so.

[revrandy]

i just read this Thread for the first time...

It would seem that in what is written there is a "justification" being laid down for "accepting" the lifestyle that brought on the disease...

I would say the admission of it is being honest but the verbage is somewhat decietful in that it's not a confession but an omission...

Confessing would be displaying guilt and asking for forgiveness and repentence followed by a change of lifestyle...
There is no change here as far as I read... therefore no change in the person as far as I read..

What I do read is the justification qualified by "Ministry" in the brain of the who wrote it.. and it's wrong...

Sin will be judged by the Word of God not men...and if one continues in sin without repentence and change he will be judged by the Word...

I would suggest that you pray for an illumination of the Word of God and pray that God would help you to overcome even in the midst of your weakness.. and give up that lifestyle and come back to God...

Don't fool yourself into thinking that getting what you want is tied to the justification of sin... God rains on the just and the unjust...

[rrford]

As loving and as full of compassion as I am, there is still a reason to be cautious on this one, IMO.