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Old 11-24-2007, 10:23 PM
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Oh but thats normal for many mbrs of this forum, really crass statements like that not caring if anyone is offended or not.

I AM..(sorta) 'cause I wear them., my roots are in this org., AAFCJ!

NOT that that would matter to anyone.

The veils we/I wear look nothing like that btw..but those who throw such barbs don't ever really care to get facts straight, they just want the laughs that they {no one in particular but there are more than one such personality here} will no doubt get for being the 'class clown'.

I will forgive this blurb, but I hope to not hear stuff like that anymore., I happen to wear my "velos" out of honor and glory to MY LORD.,it is a holy privilege to ME.
And my comment was only about those that actually DO wear veils like that...in fact I can't really even call them veils. And I have the facts straight. I see people from the Apostolic Assemblies or the "Spanish Assemblies" all the time. Some wear what really amounts to "doilies" and not really veils at all. They just barel cover the top of their heads.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:25 PM
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Anyways, again, I apologize for my "crass" statement.
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And my comment was only about those that actually DO wear veils like that...in fact I can't really even call them veils. And I have the facts straight. I see people from the Apostolic Assemblies or the "Spanish Assemblies" all the time. Some wear what really amounts to "doilies" and not really veils at all. They just barel cover the top of their heads.
The size and color depends on their marital status PRAX. The small white veils are for single women, maybe you should have asked one out instead of making fun!!!!!
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:17 PM
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Oh but thats normal for many mbrs of this forum, really crass statements like that not caring if anyone is offended or not.

I AM..(sorta) 'cause I wear them., my roots are in this org., AAFCJ!

NOT that that would matter to anyone.

The veils we/I wear look nothing like that btw..how many have actually seen ones like I wear? Never mind, but those who throw such barbs don't ever really care to get facts straight, they just want the laughs that they {no one in particular but there are more than one such personality here} will no doubt get for being the 'class clown'.

I will forgive this blurb, but I hope to not hear stuff like that anymore., I happen to wear my "velos" out of honor and glory to MY LORD.,it is a holy privilege to ME.

FTR when I was little and catholic the ones we wore THEN did look something like that., for the little girls., and some of the ones even today for little bitty girls are a bit similar, but certainly do not just go out and buy "doilies' to use, how ridiculous and mean to say that! :
If that is your conviction then fine, hold fast to it. we have fellowshipped with AA for years they have sung on our platform with veils we have sung on theirs with no veil. however,we have had some very unfortunate experiences with some of the leaders concerning the veil. I realize there are some in UPC with no tolerance too. they usually don't fellowship at all outside of the the UPC box and some apostolics don't.
From my observation and from what i have heard from friends in AA., most of the youth do not want to wear the veil.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:21 PM
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The size and color depends on their marital status PRAX. The small white veils are for single women, maybe you should have asked one out instead of making fun!!!!!
It does seem that most of the women I see wearing the small small top coverings are single women and teen girls....they still don't look like veils to me
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It does seem that most of the women I see wearing the small small top coverings are single women and teen girls....they still don't look like veils to me

my grandmother imigrated from Europe, never spoke english, and would not be caught dead praying or attending church without her long catholic veil.
in the apostolic Assembly, they have gotton smaller and smaller. i remember as a child they use to wear ones similar to my grandmother.


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my grandmother imigrated from Europe, never spoke english, and would not be caught dead praying or attending church without her long catholic veil.
in the apostolic Assembly, they have gotton smaller and smaller. i remember as a child they use to wear ones similar to my grandmother.


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In over 20 years I have watched them shrink too..I wonder if the hard lines in the AAs decry this as a trend that indicates "the ship is sinking"
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In over 20 years I have watched them shrink too..I wonder if the hard lines in the AAs decry this as a trend that indicates "the ship is sinking"

some of the AA churches in the L.A area and in the Bay area have become pretty lax concerning inforcing the wearing of the veil. I think that some of the churches only require it on the platform now ?? so i was told.

however, the AAs in the central state are more conservative about the veil.
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some of the AA churches in the L.A area and in the Bay area have become pretty lax concerning inforcing the wearing of the veil. I think that some of the churches only require it on the platform now ?? so i was told.

however, the AAs in the central state are more conservative about the veil.
Interesting...
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:05 AM
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I don't know about them "shrinking" nor do I have twenty years experience in watching them I'd only heard about this almost ten years ago, but have never had a problem with wearing one..and contrary to popular belief I've seen little 'enforcement'needed anyways. I don' see it as something of law(?) to be enforced(?) weird! I do believe that thrre are many misconceptions of this whole issue that only someone from within would be qualified to elaborate, if it comes to that., I have more or less learned from my pastor(s) regarding this act, over the years..
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