OOOPS, sorry, don't know where I got the idea that you were female! Sorry!
I think that the problem is that most people, (well I'll say me, I am not actually the spokesperson for "most people") don't think that because something has a supposedly "pagan" origin, that they are wrong. If I was celebrating or participating in these activities with an intent to be a pagan, or participate in pagan worship, that would be bad, wrong. But that is not what these things these dates and things celebrate or signify in our society.
As a reference point, Sunday is the most pagan day of all, it has through time been the day of worship for all pagan religions. It is directly linked to human sacrifice. However in 1st Corinthians when Paul was speaking of their meeting for worship, he did not command them to stop meeting on that day because it had pagan origins. It was not what their intent would be.
The wedding ceremony itself has extremely pagan origins, as do all the trappings of it. However, that is not what it signifies in our society.
Finally, I am not trying to be hostile or rude, but it is troubling to me that you find no problem with picking and choosing which of these things are truly bad or wrong. Or that if it is God who is directing you to these convictions, that He would be that inconsistant. (obviously, I don't believe that.)
I don't take you as rude and I hope I'm not coming off as such. I think anyone can notice I never attack or get personal with others about this subject.
I understand other things have pagan origin such as sunday, but i have no control over naming the days of the week. Yes, it was named after the sun god but I don't partake of the rites of worship towards the sun god.
as far as wedding stuff, never knew or studied it out, but since I'm married already I guess it doesn't matter. But I will take a look at it.
One question, How can past symbols of satan be used to honor God today with celebrating his birth?
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Just curious if others had there daughters in Girlscouts and if so what kind of experience was it?
Thanks.
What?
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How Did A Thread About Girl Scouts End up Talking About XMAS?
GirlScouts and Mithra's Birthday?
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If if all three was the most pagan things on the earth it doesn't justify xmass.
One pagan act doesn't justify another.
yes, yes and no.
I see, so this is selective conviction. Two traditions that may have pagan influence are ok because you do them, but the third is still of the devil, lol.
I've seen it too many times............
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I don't take you as rude and I hope I'm not coming off as such. I think anyone can notice I never attack or get personal with others about this subject.
I understand other things have pagan origin such as sunday, but i have no control over naming the days of the week. Yes, it was named after the sun god but I don't partake of the rites of worship towards the sun god.
as far as wedding stuff, never knew or studied it out, but since I'm married already I guess it doesn't matter. But I will take a look at it.
One question, How can past symbols of satan be used to honor God today with celebrating his birth?
Symbols in and of themselves are meaningless when one doesn't know how or why they originated, and even so, one can use a symbol for whatever they want and that symbol will represent what they want it to represent.
For instance, the symbol of the cross is used in satanism, wiccanism, Gothicism, and such like, but they don't use it because of Jesus Christ being crucified, right? We don't look at them using that symbol and believe they are somehow celebrating the crucifixion of Jesus.
It's the same with Christmas symbols, birthday cake and candles, and other such things. The pagans aren't looking at us as celebrating in the same manner they do (or did) with those symbols. I have no idea how those symbols were used in their worship or practices. Therefore, I have no problem using those symbols for whatever I desire that is no different than the rest of mainstream America.
Christmas and birthdays are celebrated all over the world in all kinds of forms. Are you willing to claim with absolute certainty that those other cultures developed their ideas from the pagans also? Maybe they did, and maybe they didn't, but they would also argue with you that they are in no way celebrating as the pagans did, and might even think that idea to be quite silly.
You mentioned above that people won't deny that there are pagan origins but instead justify why it's ok. But isn't that what you do with birthday celebrations as well?
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