I draw the line at modesty, pure and simple!! If I put on something that is immodest, the Holy Ghost in me automatically lets me know that I can't wear it. It's pretty simple, but not a list of man made rules.
I agree with Sherri. It should be an individual thing that we respond to at the urging of the Holy Ghost.
Would we judge someone who gave less in the offering than what the Holy Ghost told them? No, because we don't SEE it.
I am completely in favor of modesty, but it's a heart issue, and lines can't be drawn to correct the heart.
Funny thing about necklines....they are only too low if cleavage is showing!
For those of you with no imagination, there are some of us with cleavage that starts at the neck, and some don't have any at all, yet what works for one won't work for the other.
I wear what is modest for me. May not be modest for someone else, but I'm not responsible for what they wear.
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In my opinion, modesty is an individual thing - between the individual and God. I don't believe that God would not convinct someone if things were clearly visible that should not be. But I also don't believe that it is MY job to convict anyone. I can only be responsible for MY OWN actions.
We had a discussion one night at Bible Study. Our pastor was explaining that he believed that necklaces are wrong because when a guy looks at a woman with a necklace on, his eyes are 'naturally drawn' to the necklace which is usually either lying on her chest or right above it. His eyes then would tend to gravitate downward where they don't belong.
My answer to that was that when a guy wears a fancy belt buckle, a woman's eyes don't 'naturally gravitate downward'.
So the reality of the matter is that if you sin (lust) because of a what a person is wearing, you are the one who is responsible for you. Not the person you are looking at.
That does NOT give free reign to people to walk around naked. NO WAY. But it does put the responsibility where the responsiblity belongs. The person wearing no clothes is responsible to answer for that. But the person reacting to the provocative clothing is responsible for their own reaction.
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Actually......... :sshhhthe trouble starts when we think that what the Holy Ghost has told us is the rule for everyone else.
I agree.....what I consider to be holy Suzy across the church may think differently. I won't judge you if you won't judge me.
My personal convictions are:
Skirts to cover the knee
Sleeves to at least cover the shoulder and not show the arm pit
Necline to be high enough to not show cleavage
Clothes not be too tight as to reveal what is underneath
Not sure what all you want to know........
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Funny thing about necklines....they are only too low if cleavage is showing!
For those of you with no imagination, there are some of us with cleavage that starts at the neck, and some don't have any at all, yet what works for one won't work for the other.
I wear what is modest for me. May not be modest for someone else, but I'm not responsible for what they wear.
Very good point, HO!
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Originally Posted by Margies3
In my opinion, modesty is an individual thing - between the individual and God. I don't believe that God would not convinct someone if things were clearly visible that should not be. But I also don't believe that it is MY job to convict anyone. I can only be responsible for MY OWN actions.
We had a discussion one night at Bible Study. Our pastor was explaining that he believed that necklaces are wrong because when a guy looks at a woman with a necklace on, his eyes are 'naturally drawn' to the necklace which is usually either lying on her chest or right above it. His eyes then would tend to gravitate downward where they don't belong.
My answer to that was that when a guy wears a fancy belt buckle, a woman's eyes don't 'naturally gravitate downward'.
So the reality of the matter is that if you sin (lust) because of a what a person is wearing, you are the one who is responsible for you. Not the person you are looking at.
That does NOT give free reign to people to walk around naked. NO WAY. But it does put the responsibility where the responsiblity belongs. The person wearing no clothes is responsible to answer for that. But the person reacting to the provocative clothing is responsible for their own reaction.
I thought men generally looked in that direction anyway. I don't think a women needs a necklace to get that kind of attention.
I draw the line at what is perceived as modest in my neck of the woods.
Since the bible does NOT in anyway address pants as we know them in our culture and often refers to men in the bible being the one that wear "skirts", I draw no line whether a woman wears modest dress/skirts/ pants/culottes.
Since we know that men in the bible days hiked up thier long robes and tucked them in their girdles when they worked in the fields or when they had to run, exposing them hairy Hebrew legs, I draw no line at shorts on men other than a line some where around the knee.
so you would say it's ok for a man to show his thighs...what about women? Also are you ok with Christian women wearing tops that show off their chest and also their cleavage?
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