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Old 08-06-2007, 12:03 PM
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What is the deal about saying what Church you are talking about? Are they ashamed of what they believe? Since you brought up the topic it seems reasonable you should name them. I doubt anyone here would try to contact them except myself.
I would disagree!

There's no reason at all why the church needs to be named. I believe information and input is being sought re this teaching.

Personally, I've never heard it before.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:09 PM
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I would disagree!

There's no reason at all why the church needs to be named. I believe information and input is being sought re this teaching.

Personally, I've never heard it before.
Well since I believe something similar I would like to find out EXACTLY what they are saying. So far we have been given very little information. I doubt they are basing it all on one scripture.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:11 PM
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Those who know me well know I do not jest about such matters...has anyone come across this teaching before?!
We need to know more about it to say for sure.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:18 PM
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I would disagree!

There's no reason at all why the church needs to be named. I believe information and input is being sought re this teaching.

Personally, I've never heard it before.
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Well since I believe something similar I would like to find out EXACTLY what they are saying. So far we have been given very little information. I doubt they are basing it all on one scripture.
Thank you, Felicity!! Your response is exactly correct...I am seeking info...period.

Michael, no disrespect intended, but I have held off for weeks asking about this for precisely this reason, and I will NOT say more than what has been said re this church, and there is not earthly point in doing so.

I do not know exactly what they are saying, but am merely asking what anyone knows...I have told you all I know about what they teach re this.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:20 PM
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We need to know more about it to say for sure.
Perhaps it is best when one does not know what to say, to say nothing.

Thank you all for your input...I am moving on from this discussion...
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:20 PM
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There is an elderly lady in the Atlantic District, who taught in the Bible College when I was there, and she believed in the annihilation of the wicked. She held a local license with the UPCI for years I believe. She didn't push this teaching, but I recall her briefly stating her position while teaching one day.

There were a few preachers in AD who also believed this doctrine. To be honest I have always found it difficult to believe God would want souls to be in eternal torment. It seems sadistic to me. Yet Mark 9:43 speaks of those who will go to hell, "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:23 PM
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There is an elderly lady in the Atlantic District, who taught in the Bible College when I was there, and she believed in the annihilation of the wicked. She held a local license with the UPCI for years I believe. She didn't push this teaching, but I recall her briefly stating her position while teaching one day.

There were a few preachers in AD who also believed this doctrine. To be honest I have always found it difficult to believe God would want souls to be in eternal torment. It seems sadistic to me. Yet Mark 9:43 speaks of those who will go to hell, "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
Elder, I understand your heartbeat here, but we do realize that God does not want a soul to be in torment...that is our choice to make and the result of our choice is hell.

And that is a good Scripture you cited re this...thank you...
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:40 PM
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Perhaps "selective immortality" is a good name for what I believe. It indicates that Yeshua will only grant immortality to a select few who overcome.

6: Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: Rom. 2:6-7

It is pretty clear immortality is a gift given to the overcomers only. No one in Hell will have it. Thats why the Lord says he is able to DESTROY the soul just as he does the body. Where? In Hell. Matt. 10:28
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why would god punish someone then make them dissapear?

it seems to me if the soul is distroyed, it will happen as soon as a person dies. there is no reason to punish then distroy.
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Old 08-06-2007, 01:10 PM
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why would god punish someone then make them dissapear?

it seems to me if the soul is distroyed, it will happen as soon as a person dies. there is no reason to punish then distroy.
Yeah...what he said...!!
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