Non-A/P Pastor Commits Suicide

[Aquila]

Here's something I found:

Seven Suicides in the Bible
1. [Abimelech] called hastily unto the young man his armour-bearer, and said unto him, Draw thy sword, and slay me, that men say not of me, A woman slew him. And his young man thrust him through, and he died (Judges 9:54).

2. And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed with all his might; and the house fell...upon all the people that were therein (Judges 16:30).

3. Saul took a sword and fell on it (1 Sam. 31:4).

4. When [Saul's] armour-bearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his sword, and died (1 Sam 31:5).

5. When Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he...got him home to his house, to his city, and put his house in order, and hanged himself, and died (2 Sam. 17:23).

6. It came to pass, when Zimri saw that the city was taken, that he went into the palace of the king's house, and burnt the king's house over him with fire, and died (1 Kings 16:18).

7. [Judas] cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself (Matt. 27:5).

J. L. Meredith, Meredith's Big Book of Bible Lists, (Inspirational Press, NY; 1980), pp. 143-144

Sampson is mentioned in Hebrews 11, the great "Hall of Faith" passage. And it is implied that after all was said and done, he was considered righteous. So, at least we see one manner of suicide forgiven. Which, though Scripture may not elaborate on it, means there might be others. But only God knows.

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Here's something I found:

Seven Suicides in the Bible
1. [Abimelech] called hastily unto the young man his armour-bearer, and said unto him, Draw thy sword, and slay me, that men say not of me, A woman slew him. And his young man thrust him through, and he died (Judges 9:54).

2. And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed with all his might; and the house fell...upon all the people that were therein (Judges 16:30).

3. Saul took a sword and fell on it (1 Sam. 31:4).

4. When [Saul's] armour-bearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his sword, and died (1 Sam 31:5).

5. When Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he...got him home to his house, to his city, and put his house in order, and hanged himself, and died (2 Sam. 17:23).

6. It came to pass, when Zimri saw that the city was taken, that he went into the palace of the king's house, and burnt the king's house over him with fire, and died (1 Kings 16:18).

7. [Judas] cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself (Matt. 27:5).

J. L. Meredith, Meredith's Big Book of Bible Lists, (Inspirational Press, NY; 1980), pp. 143-144

Sampson is mentioned in Hebrews 11, the great "Hall of Faith" passage. And it is implied that after all was said and done, he was considered righteous. So, at least we see one manner of suicide forgiven. Which, though Scripture may not elaborate on it, means there might be others. But only God knows.

not sure I would consider Samson suicide, more like taking one for the home team.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

not sure I would consider Samson suicide, more like taking one for the home team.

lol

Rule # 1. It's not suicide... if you take enough people with you.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

If a Christian gets into a car accident and dies, but has yet to work through a long-standing hurt or grudge or __________ between them and one of their siblings or one of their parents-- does that Christian go to hell?

The most minor sin you can think of-- if you die before you are able to ask for forgiveness, I guess you're going to hell...


We are Apostolic through and through, but we are still saved by GRACE!

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

If a Christian gets into a car accident and dies, but has yet to work through a long-standing hurt or grudge or __________ between them and one of their siblings or one of their parents-- does that Christian go to hell?

The most minor sin you can think of-- if you die before you are able to ask for forgiveness, I guess you're going to hell...


We are Apostolic through and through, but we are still saved by GRACE!

are there minor sins? can you name a sin thats ok with God?

[Apostolic1ness]

Originally Posted by Aquila

lol

Rule # 1. It's not suicide... if you take enough people with you.

I guess I think of it like a prisoner of war or hostage situation.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Aquila

lol

Rule # 1. It's not suicide... if you take enough people with you.

Jihad Pranksters


"DID YOU SEE AMHEDS FACE WHEN HIS BOMB WENT OFF 10 SECONDS LATE????"

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

are there minor sins? can you name a sin thats ok with God?

That was going to be my point.

There is a school of thought that pretty much has people either walking around nervous about dying before asking forgiveness for every sin or walking around a little self-righteous (or at a bare minimum unaware of just how easy it is to sin).

Even as Born Again Heaven Bound Believers in the Liberating Power of Jesus Name, one of our thoughts can be a sin.

Just. One. Thought.

So if you die before you have the chance of asking forgiveness for that thought which was a sin that you didn't even realize was a sin but just because you didn't realize it was a sin that doesn't make it less sinful so if you DIE without having REPENTED (having godly sorrow, right?) for that one single thought-- what happens to you?

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

That was going to be my point.

There is a school of thought that pretty much has people either walking around nervous about dying before asking forgiveness for every sin or walking around a little self-righteous (or at a bare minimum unaware of just how easy it is to sin).

Even as Born Again Heaven Bound Believers in the Liberating Power of Jesus Name, one of our thoughts can be a sin.

Just. One. Thought.

So if you die before you have the chance of asking forgiveness for that thought which was a sin that you didn't even realize was a sin but just because you didn't realize it was a sin that doesn't make it less sinful so if you DIE without having REPENTED (having godly sorrow, right?) for that one single thought-- what happens to you?

Gonna burn for trillions of enternities in God's perpetual energy powerplant, that's what.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

I guess I think of it like a prisoner of war or hostage situation.

I can see that angle. Makes pretty good sense.