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Old 04-15-2016, 09:32 AM
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Corey is a lying liar. He claimed he didn't touch Michelle, yet the video clearly shows he did. You seem to believe the lie that just because a prosecutor used prosecutorial discretion that nothing actually happened - as though the police just trumped up some charge against poor widdle Corey. They didn't.
No, he did not lie. I've heard his explanation of this and it is very believable, especially in light of how things turned out. When you are around thousands of people a day, you are not going to remember everyone you casually encounter or brush up against. And when they accuse you of throwing them on the ground practically, a natural reaction might be, "What? I never touched her!", not remembering at first the very casual contact he did have with her. But you won't believe that because you don't want to believe that. You want to believe the worst of this man solely because you so dislike Trump. You know you lost the argument when he was proven innocent and instead of accepting that you continue to try to salvage some shred of victory by saying, "But he did lie!". How pathetic.

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Uh. Cruz supporters aren't thugs. Never said they were. Trumpsters on the other hand...
Obviously a typo on my part. So I will start from the beginning....

You continue to assassinate the character and intelligence of those who support Trump , referring to them as thugs or people going purely by emotion. You take the rare exceptions of those who promote violence and try to create the false narrative they are typical Trump supporters. In doing so you falsely malign highly intelligent people like Laura Ingram, Herman Cain ,Jeff Session, Chris Cristy, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage and others. No, not all of those people have officially endorsed Trump, but they all will enthusiastically support him if he gets the nomination and they do defend him from the ridiculous attacks from people like you two. You really should publically apologize to Trump, his supporters/defenders and Corey Lewandowski, but you will not.

I stand by every word.

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And how hypocritical of you. The guy who has called me retarded, uninformed, stupid, and a host of other insults.

You have some nerve whining about this when you've done the same against me.
Again, you dodge the point by trying to deflect attention onto something said about you, that you don't even accurately recall. Nobody called you retarded.

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Poor Trumpster snowflakes. Not all Trumpsters are thugs. There are many who are rednecks and racists. Many others who are low information voters.
There is an obvious undercurrent in you that resents certain people from a certain region of the country.

Laura Ingram, Herman Cain ,Jeff Session, Chris Cristy, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage ...Rednecks? Racists? Low information? You "yawned" when I mentioned them before because you know you have no answer. But that is what cyber bullies like yourself do when cornered.

You do indeed lie about and falsely malign Trump supporters, NDavid. You continually spam this board and try to dominate the conversation with your rudeness and insults. But again, what can one expect from a bully?

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Old 04-15-2016, 09:37 AM
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Y'all brought up ones associations. So the liberal "scholar" likes Cruz. Another reason to be skeptical of Cruz.

The fact that a Cruz campaign worker can't "take me seriously" hardly means anything to me.
The "Liberal" scholar, Alan Dershowitz, said that even though he received hate from the Left for saying that Ted Cruz was his brightest student, and even though he didn't agree with Cruz's policies, he is a law professor and must tell the truth. He went on to say that he isn't going to change history by denying it.

Good on him. Nothing skeptical about a little honesty.
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Old 04-15-2016, 09:38 AM
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You must not be following very closely the vitriol these people listed are receiving from their support and open bias toward Donald Trump. They've received so much angst from real conservatives, they've had to address it on the air.

I side with Constitutionalist Mark Levin - #NeverTrump

There is no reason I should apologize to Trump or Corey. Corey publicly denied ever touching Michelle, video showed that he did. Corey then goes public and calls her delusional, tried to say she was a liar and then Donald, on top of Corey in public, in front of hundreds of reporters said that Michelle Fields simply made it up. Later, he came out and said that it happened.

Lying about it is the point of this whole saga. Her livelihood has been affected by their lies.
What they said she "made-up" was the part about getting roughed up. The State dropped the case, for God's sake! Why do continue to act as if though he is guilty. And he explained the "I never touched her " remark and in light of how things turned out, his explanation made sense. I'll defer to my remarks to NDavid on that.

So Levin is right and all the other talk show hosts are low information ? Wow.
Maybe these "real conservatives" are really sympathetic to the establishment. I would love to hear Rush and Levin debate on this issue. Rush would make Levin look like a teenager who is angry someone talked bad about their favorite pop star.
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Old 04-15-2016, 09:40 AM
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BTW, its funny when inconvenient facts are brought up the lemmings whip out the "tin foil" nonsense. Its sad how many people are willing to suspend rational thinking in order to continue their game of pretend.
Pretending that Donald Trump and his entourage are Republicans also lends a willingness to suspend rational thinking in order to continue a game of pretend.

Vote for him, Esaias. It's your right as an American.
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Y'all brought up ones associations. So the liberal "scholar" likes Cruz. Another reason to be skeptical of Cruz.

The fact that a Cruz campaign worker can't "take me seriously" hardly means anything to me.
Amazing when it's these guys who continually attack Trump for being surrounded by liberals. They don't even see their own inconsistency.
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Old 04-15-2016, 09:41 AM
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What they said she "made-up" was the part about getting roughed up. The State dropped the case, for God's sake! Why do continue to act as if though he is guilty. And he explained the "I never touched her " remark and in light of how things turned out, his explanation made sense. I'll defer to my remarks to NDavid on that.

So Levin is right and all the other talk show hosts are low information ? Wow.
Maybe these "real conservatives" are really sympathetic to the establishment. I would love to hear Rush and Levin debate on this issue. Rush would make Levin look like a teenager who is angry someone talked bad about their favorite pop star.
Simple battery is Corey jerking her. He and Donald both denied she was ever touched, called her delusional, and then both admitted it happened. The LYING is the point.

If that was Ted Cruz, you'd be all over it like white on rice, calling it - Liar, Liar pants on fire.
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Old 04-15-2016, 09:50 AM
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No, he did not lie. I've heard his explanation of this and it is very believable, especially in light of how things turned out. When you are around thousands of people a day, you are not going to remember everyone you casually encounter or brush up against. And when they accuse you of throwing them on the ground practically, a natural reaction might be, "What? I never touched her!", not remembering at first the very casual contact he did have with her. But you won't believe that because you don't want to believe that. You want to believe the worst of this man solely because you so dislike Trump. You know you lost the argument when he was proven innocent and instead of accepting that you continue to try to salvage some shred of victory by saying, "But he did lie!". How pathetic.
He lied. He said he didn't touch her and called her delusional.

Also, you're completely wrong here...he wasn't "found innocent." The police charged him with a crime and the prosecutor used her discretion as to whether to pursue the case. She chose not to. That is NOT the same as him being proven innocent.
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Old 04-15-2016, 09:52 AM
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This is the best analysis on this issue that I have read thus far. And with it, I am done with this conversation and arguing about Donald Trump. #NeverTrump

Incidentally, I blocked Jim Hoft months ago.

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What is worse is that the Trump acolytes are reveling in their perceived "victory". Jim Hoft (Gateway Pundit) tweeted out about the supposed win over "faker" Fields. I am glad I dropped him 2+ years ago. People like him are not true conservatives. Secretly, they have always wanted a thug on "their" side. They clamored for a real conservative and when one comes along, they would rather go for the guy who has very few of those principles but is willing to bloody the nose of a bunch of people they don't like. I have never been so disgusted with a movement in my life. Many of the ones who were going to be the standard-bearers of the conservative cause have turned out to be phonies and frauds who are willing to sell out for a chance to "hit back" at the Left. But the conservative cause has never been just about hitting back at the Left; it was, and should have been, all about standing up for the principles and ideals of America, regardless of the flaws. True conservatives want a strong and prosperous America that limits the government's power in our lives. Trump thugs just want revenge, with an "avenging angel" government on their side.

It is past time we all shunned these frauds from our ranks.
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Old 04-15-2016, 09:57 AM
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He lied. He said he didn't touch her and called her delusional.

Also, you're completely wrong here...he wasn't "found innocent." The police charged him with a crime and the prosecutor used her discretion as to whether to pursue the case. She chose not to. That is NOT the same as him being proven innocent.
Our ruling

Trump said that when Michelle Fields "found out that there was a security camera, and that they had her on tape, all of a sudden that story changed."

We see no evidence that Fields’ story about her altercation with Trump’s campaign manager has changed. She gave an initial account and hasn't backed off of it.

We rate Trump’s claim Pants on Fire.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...her-story-fir/
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Old 04-15-2016, 10:08 AM
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Again, you dodge the point by trying to deflect attention onto something said about you, that you don't even accurately recall. Nobody called you retarded.
We've been over this. Yes, you did. You quoted me and called me mentally retarded. Don't lie.

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Here a Never Trump zealot proves what I have been saying. They are so fixated on not being for Trump their brain is no longer able to function normally.
You tried masking your words by rephrasing it, but the meaning is the same. A person whose brain no longer functions normally is considered mentally retarded.

"""Mental Retardation is a disorder not a disease in which the mental functioning of an individual is disturbed (i.e.- the brain doesn't function normally)"""
http://speechtherapy.ygoy.com/2009/1...l-retardation/
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