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03-27-2016, 07:06 PM
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Re: Where we are headed
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Until THE NATION repents, your electoral choices will always be Rehoboam vs Jeroboam.
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03-27-2016, 07:33 PM
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Re: Where we are headed
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Until THE NATION repents, your electoral choices will always be Rehoboam vs Jeroboam.
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Not Biblical---"If MY PEOPLE, WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, will humble themselves and pray, and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, then I will forgive their sin, then I will heal their land.
Until God's people repent...then will the land be healed.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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03-27-2016, 08:12 PM
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Re: Where we are headed
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Not Biblical---"If MY PEOPLE, WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, will humble themselves and pray, and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, then I will forgive their sin, then I will heal their land.
Until God's people repent...then will the land be healed.
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Bro, that is a prayer that the Israelites were to pray if they sinned against God and God withheld the rains, or sent locust to devour their crops. If you ask a Rabbi today and ask him how is he "saved" which they really don't go for the concept. But if you were to ask him if he sinned against God, how does he get into right standing? The right standing is repentance. That is what will gain them entrance and security also in their land. Christians are a nation in the Holy Ghost, the Body of Christ, or nation is universal and around the entire world. 
Land healing?
We are not stuck in just one geographic area, at the foot of one mountain.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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03-27-2016, 08:22 PM
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Re: Where we are headed
Of course, a contrarian view!
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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03-27-2016, 09:09 PM
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Re: Where we are headed
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Of course, a contrarian view!
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Not a contrarian view at all. But what the scripture is trying to actually say. I'm sorry that you feel it means something else, but it actually was exclusively for a people who had a land. Not AMERICAN Apostolics and the United States. It might get a bunch of Apostolics in the U.S. shouting happy, but that it because you are misapplying the scripture. Again, we aren't confined to one geographical area, but the message of Christ blankets the earth. Jesus paid it all, and through His blood and His Holy Ghost we have the victory! So, Easias was 100% correct. The United States would have to have massive revival in order to get pass having to choose between Baal and Asheroth.
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03-28-2016, 12:17 AM
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Re: Where we are headed
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
Not Biblical---"If MY PEOPLE, WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, will humble themselves and pray, and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, then I will forgive their sin, then I will heal their land.
Until God's people repent...then will the land be healed.
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Who are God's people? What are they to repent of? And how are they to do it?
Is voting for Trump the penance that apostolic believers must make?
The NATION is engaged in NATIONAL SIN. Therefore, the NATION gets Ahaz for its king, until the NATION recognizes JESUS is KING.
Meanwhile, the ekklesia has been delivered from the hand of the sinners in Zion, and Ahab and his nasty wife to boot. So the ekklesia's job is to TELL THE NATION that Christ is reigning, not Obama, Trump, Cruz, Rockefeller, the Queen, Cheney, or anyone else.
Yeah, the church needs to repent - it needs to repent of promoting and supporting charlatans as "viable leaders", otherwise known as IDOLATRY.
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03-28-2016, 12:21 AM
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Re: Where we are headed
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
Not Biblical---"If MY PEOPLE, WHO ARE CALLED BY MY NAME, will humble themselves and pray, and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, then I will forgive their sin, then I will heal their land.
Until God's people repent...then will the land be healed.
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Bingo!!!!
There must be repentence.
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03-28-2016, 07:59 AM
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Re: Where we are headed
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Who are God's people? What are they to repent of? And how are they to do it?
Is voting for Trump the penance that apostolic believers must make?
The NATION is engaged in NATIONAL SIN. Therefore, the NATION gets Ahaz for its king, until the NATION recognizes JESUS is KING.
Meanwhile, the ekklesia has been delivered from the hand of the sinners in Zion, and Ahab and his nasty wife to boot. So the ekklesia's job is to TELL THE NATION that Christ is reigning, not Obama, Trump, Cruz, Rockefeller, the Queen, Cheney, or anyone else.
Yeah, the church needs to repent - it needs to repent of promoting and supporting charlatans as "viable leaders", otherwise known as IDOLATRY.
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Two steaks!!!!!
Awesome words!!!!!
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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03-28-2016, 07:22 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Re: Where we are headed
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Who are God's people? What are they to repent of? And how are they to do it?
Is voting for Trump the penance that apostolic believers must make?
The NATION is engaged in NATIONAL SIN. Therefore, the NATION gets Ahaz for its king, until the NATION recognizes JESUS is KING.
Meanwhile, the ekklesia has been delivered from the hand of the sinners in Zion, and Ahab and his nasty wife to boot. So the ekklesia's job is to TELL THE NATION that Christ is reigning, not Obama, Trump, Cruz, Rockefeller, the Queen, Cheney, or anyone else.
Yeah, the church needs to repent - it needs to repent of promoting and supporting charlatans as "viable leaders", otherwise known as IDOLATRY.
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YOU need to repent---I need to repent---everyone needs to repent. But the fact remains that God said IF HIS PEOPLE would repent He would heal the land.
Deal with the man in mirror. I know that's hard to embrace being so spiritually superior and all...but you ought to try.
The problem with the church is we are too busy pridefully pointing our fingers at everyone else, rather than humbly big knowledge Ing we are not what we need to be.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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03-28-2016, 09:20 PM
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Re: Where we are headed
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YOU need to repent---I need to repent---everyone needs to repent. But the fact remains that God said IF HIS PEOPLE would repent He would heal the land.
Deal with the man in mirror. I know that's hard to embrace being so spiritually superior and all...but you ought to try.
The problem with the church is we are too busy pridefully pointing our fingers at everyone else, rather than humbly big knowledge Ing we are not what we need to be.
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Then why don't you take your own advise?
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