obama compares Catholics to ISIS

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Happy daze. All those MILs.

So, Walks, I'm sure I've asked you this before, but I forgot what you said.

What school of Islam do you ascribe to?

Have you heard of the Quranists?

What do you think of the Quranists?

[shazeep]

"BUT the numbers of people who call themselves Christian, have NEVER ONCE tried to kill someone for the cause of Christianity. The statistical reality is the number of such is so close to zero as to be statistically inseperable from zero."

comedy

[Esaias]

If it weren't for the crusades we'd all be european slaves to the muslim turks.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Esaias

If it weren't for the crusades we'd all be european slaves to the muslim turks.

well, or at least that is the Christian polit-speak; so i'm kind of surprised to hear you repeating it. Aren't the Crusades considered a failure by most/all? So that sinks to a justification, it seems to me. I note that Palestine was not "liberated" in this period. Still isn't, for that matter--now we have Israeli apartheid.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, or at least that is the Christian polit-speak; so i'm kind of surprised to hear you repeating it. Aren't the Crusades considered a failure by most/all? So that sinks to a justification, it seems to me. I note that Palestine was not "liberated" in this period. Still isn't, for that matter--now we have Israeli apartheid.

Ottoman Turks invaded Europe, the Crusades held them from sweeping all the way to Ireland. Good thing for them, too, otherwise they'd have become Irish like the Vikings, Saxons, and Normans before them who wound up being "more Irish than the Irish" as Seamus MacManus would say. lol

Bad times often call for bad men to do bad things to bad people so good people can live and raise good children.

That's the theory anyway.

[Esaias]

http://www.firstprinciplesjournal.co...le=1483&loc=qs

Good article.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Aquila

So, Walks, I'm sure I've asked you this before, but I forgot what you said.

What school of Islam do you ascribe to?

Have you heard of the Quranists?

What do you think of the Quranists?

Shafi'i would most closely reflect my teaching. This requires application of Quran, Hadith, and carefully derived consensus on matters under question or discussion in that order of priority and no practice in a lower priority would overrule the higher.

Under this philosophy 1000 lash sentences or death sentences for adultery and a few other newsworthy issues are not practiced.

You would most commonly find this practiced in Asia (where all the Muslims really live lol) rather than in the mideast where all the news stories about Muslims originate.
Pure Quranosts still depend on commentary to work out details not specifically addressed in the Quran. Depending on the source of the commentary it really is not all that different than deferring to the Quran first followed by other sources.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by shazeep

"BUT the numbers of people who call themselves Christian, have NEVER ONCE tried to kill someone for the cause of Christianity. The statistical reality is the number of such is so close to zero as to be statistically inseperable from zero."

comedy

Its all in the definition of "someone". "Godless Savages" on this continent or that continent aren't technically "someones" so I can see the logic in the above. Really. I can. See. The logic. Lol

[shazeep]

well, i did not mean to laugh at the poster, but the post. While i would not call them Christian, i can surely give many examples of murderers who called themselves that--so i must not have understood the intent there.

Originally Posted by Esaias

http://www.firstprinciplesjournal.co...le=1483&loc=qs

Good article.

ty, E, that was informative!

[Jermyn Davidson]

In the name of Christ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition