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06-08-2007, 12:07 AM
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HART2HART
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
First of all I made it very clear that I was not blaming the victim and that there was no excuse for the murderers actions. I thought I made that crystal clear. I'm sorry I didn't for you.
Second, I don't make claims of never watching TV, so your incredulity is wasted.
Third, you must not have seen the video footage of this young lady or your sensibilities have been dulled. She was dressed very scantily exposing more than just knees and elbows.
Fourth, if you follow my posts at all, I am no off the edge right winger, but I am still believe in modesty and decorum. I would never allow my daughter to dress the way this young lady was attired under any circumstances.
Let me again make myself clear for the dull of understanding: THIS YOUNG LADY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN KILLED! IT WAS AN EVIL, WICKED AND DISGUSTING ACT! THE MURDERER DESERVES 100% OF THE BLAME! I believe this animal would have killed regardless of who it was. I was just curious to know if he selected her b/c he was drawn to her sensual dress. I would not be surprised if he was.
It made me think about the value of modesty and its importance beyond just pleasing the Lord. If I were her parents I would have to battle thoughts of "would this man have left my daughter alone had she be dressed more appropriately?"
Stop trying to make it sound like I am saying something that I am not.
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It's all kewl my post was TIC - a taste of the retribution that was sure to come after you intial post.
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06-08-2007, 12:10 AM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Then why entitle this thread "A Case for Modesty" ... why not entitle it The Musings of UltraCon Mentality???
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Bro, you make my case for balance. Whereas NO ONE who even remotely knows me would ever paint me into an UC persona, I can have someone to the left of me accusing me of being off the charts conservative simply b/c I raise IMO some valid questions about modesty or the lack thereof and the potential influneces this may or may not have had in thsi particular case.
Relax. Breathe. There is more than one way of looking at something. Its a great revelation. The sooner you embrace this, the more peaceful life can be.
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06-08-2007, 12:10 AM
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Where the problem comes in, is were one say if, if she didn't do or wore that or this. When this should not be the issues, no one has the right to do what this person did, no excuse should be made, he should be held fully accountable to the law for his actions.
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06-08-2007, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
Bro, you make my case for balance. Whereas NO ONE who even remotely knows me would ever paint me into an UC persona, I can have someone to the left of me accusing me of being off the charts conservative simply b/c I raise IMO some valid questions about modesty or the lack thereof and the potential influneces this may or may not have had in thsi particular case.
Relax. Breathe. There is more than one way of looking at something. Its a great revelation. The sooner you embrace this, the more peaceful life can be.
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I see something in the bushes ... quick pass me my gun.
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06-08-2007, 12:15 AM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Originally Posted by H2H
I would venture to say DB is as opposed to this as yourself.
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Thank you.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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06-08-2007, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
Thank you.
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DB ... you presuppose a few things about my comments here ... I have a good feel for where you stand on issues .... these are valid questions in YOUR MIND ... not mine ... dat's all.
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06-08-2007, 12:21 AM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Originally Posted by H2H
It's all kewl my post was TIC - a taste of the retribution that was sure to come after you intial post.
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Ah-so kemosabi. Forgive me for the defensiveness.
Funny me, I thought to myself, "Self, you know if you don't word this correctly, someone will accuse you of blaming the victim for her murder. So, self, your gonna have to state it very PLAINLY that you don't think this to be so." And so I thought I would make that clear. And then..........................
HURRICANE DAN hits the FAN!     
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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06-08-2007, 12:25 AM
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Any one care to join??? ... DB has gone rabid.
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06-08-2007, 12:29 AM
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HART2HART
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DB, The reason you will always get the flak on this question you bring up is that people see about a million other posts and threads hanging on the question. They are not reading what you posted. They are reading, dresses and burkas - or bikinis and nudity... LOL!
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06-08-2007, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by H2H
DB, The reason you will always get the flak on this question you bring up is that people see about a million other posts and threads hanging on the question. They are not reading what you posted. They are reading, dresses and burkas - or bikinis and nudity... LOL!
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No ... I'm reading ... something quite different ... I see a perpetuation of a systematic mindset that teaches us 4 +4 =10 .... it's not DB, I'm hunting ... but a mode of thinking ....
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