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Old 06-06-2007, 04:37 PM
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I know churches that hire their musicians and don't care how their walk with God is. I would much rather have anointing than talent. If you can have both, GREAT! But if I had to choose, I would choose anointing any day. We have had talent before without anointing, and it's not pretty!!
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:51 PM
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I know churches that hire their musicians and don't care how their walk with God is. I would much rather have anointing than talent. If you can have both, GREAT! But if I had to choose, I would choose anointing any day. We have had talent before without anointing, and it's not pretty!!
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:55 PM
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I know churches that hire their musicians and don't care how their walk with God is. I would much rather have anointing than talent. If you can have both, GREAT! But if I had to choose, I would choose anointing any day. We have had talent before without anointing, and it's not pretty!!
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:58 PM
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I was recently speaking with a freind of mine here locally and we were discussing some recent events in a well-known UPC musicians life and he said a part of the problem musicians have is they become so removed from service that they no longer feel God. (NO IT WASN"T THAD!!! )

He said Talent at times is a curse because even if they mess up or do something terrible we or somebody put them right back on the platform.

He said and it's true a Minister has to Pray for the anointing and if he doesnt' you know it... Musicians don 't... they can get up and play and everybody else prays but wouldn't know the difference because of their talent.

And nobody says anything... if they do and the person leaves they can go somewhere else get right up on the platform and play...

Any thoughts out there on this???
I disagree that we cannot tell when a singer/musician is not anointed. There are many wonderful voices out there and people who can make the organ/piano get up and walk, but most with a discerning ear can tell the difference. There is something stirring in your inner beings which lets you know...you just know.

When measured in the balance of God's economy, I believe anointing is greater than talent, however, I believe we can, and should have both.

The OT muscicians were cunning (I Chron. 25:7). The word used didn't mean sneaky, it meant trained or expert...they studied and went to classes to minister before the Lord.

They were trained in the school of the prophets and prophesied with their instruments (I Chron. 25:1-3).

They operated with such anointing in the dedication of the Temple, praising with one voice and one sound, that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud...anointing.

Ability and performance alone did not produce this...it was the unction of the Spirit of God.

If our music does not heal the wounded soul, soothe and comfort the broken in heart, or restore to a right standing with God, it is just pretty singing and nice music…it sounds good, but it’s just not right.

I need to stop here because this is a subject that I am passionate about...
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I know churches that hire their musicians and don't care how their walk with God is. I would much rather have anointing than talent. If you can have both, GREAT! But if I had to choose, I would choose anointing any day. We have had talent before without anointing, and it's not pretty!!
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:20 PM
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Give me anointing if I can choose...Seen both ways...but I try t encourage and help (usually pay) classes for those in this ministry and usually end up buying them their instrument...
I have seen it go to people's heads but that is about true in any thing...
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:47 PM
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Give me anointing if I can choose...Seen both ways...but I try t encourage and help (usually pay) classes for those in this ministry and usually end up buying them their instrument...
I have seen it go to people's heads but that is about true in any thing...
I have taught a few music seminars in this city, and after opening remarks, reading of Scripture and prayer, I always ask everyone to turn to the person standing near them, and say, "You're SO much better than me!!"

I then tell them that saying that with meaning and remembering it will keep them from what I call 'the big head spirit'.

If I could sing the birds out of the trees and truly make the piano get up and run around the building, God is not impressed.

He is looking for hearts and motives that are right...
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Old 06-06-2007, 06:03 PM
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The Curse that Follows Talent...


I'm safe.

Seriously, if I understand it right, Judah, the tribe of the Praisers, was in the front of the camp (right behind the Levites) and so would have to often meet the enemy before most of the camp.

Singers and musicians are in the forefront and the enemy will do whatever to destroy or discredit "leadership".

As far as talent is concerned, it's a sad day indeed for the Church when talent takes the place of the anointing in the pulpit or the choir and we have all seen that in every circle of fellowship.

Talent without dedication is DANGEROUS.
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Old 06-06-2007, 06:05 PM
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The Curse that Follows Talent...


I'm safe.

Seriously, if I understand it right, Judah, the tribe of the Praisers, was in the front of the camp (right behind the Levites) and so would have to often meet the enemy before most of the camp.

Singers and musicians are in the forefront and the enemy will do whatever to destroy or discredit "leadership".

As far as talent is concerned, it's a sad day indeed for the Church when talent takes the place of the anointing in the pulpit or the choir and we have all seen that in every circle of fellowship.

Talent without dedication is DANGEROUS.
Absolutely!!
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Old 06-06-2007, 06:19 PM
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I guess I question what many consider to be the "annointing" so that complicates things a bit.
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