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04-30-2013, 01:31 PM
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Re: Saved vs striving to be saved??
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I haven't always but now through Jesus I can say yes.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
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So it's through Christ you can say yes, I agree. But i am asking in behavior/actions. Most will.say no they are not sin free. This why we need a savior.
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And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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04-30-2013, 01:46 PM
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Re: Saved vs striving to be saved??
I have been saved from what could have been.
I am saved from a life filled with sin.
I am being saved as the days go by.
I shall be saved from eternal damnation.
Pastor Williams uses the word "safe" in describing our salvation. I could use that word, but I don't see anything wrong with using the word "saved" or even "sealed".
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04-30-2013, 02:11 PM
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Re: Saved vs striving to be saved??
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So it's through Christ you can say yes, I agree. But i am asking in behavior/actions. Most will.say no they are not sin free. This why we need a savior.
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My answer remains the same I am free from all sin both in behavior and in actions but this is only possible through the power of Jesus enabling me to live free of sin. This does not mean I do not need a savior rather it expresses dependence upon my savior for the power to stay clean and free from sin. It is through Jesus that I can always say no to temptation.
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04-30-2013, 02:13 PM
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Re: Saved vs striving to be saved??
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So it's through Christ you can say yes, I agree. But i am asking in behavior/actions. Most will.say no they are not sin free. This why we need a savior.
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Can I ask you this, What is your definition of being sin free?
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Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
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04-30-2013, 02:15 PM
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Re: Saved vs striving to be saved??
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My answer remains the same I am free from all sin both in behavior and in actions but this is only possible through the power of Jesus enabling me to live free of sin. This does not mean I do not need a savior rather it expresses dependence upon my savior for the power to stay clean and free from sin. It is through Jesus that I can always say no to temptation.
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I don't know why, that whey you say you can live a sin free life, people equate that with you doing it almost entirely of yourself, without the help of God..
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Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
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04-30-2013, 02:17 PM
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Re: Saved vs striving to be saved??
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Originally Posted by Luke
My answer remains the same I am free from all sin both in behavior and in actions but this is only possible through the power of Jesus enabling me to live free of sin. This does not mean I do not need a savior rather it expresses dependence upon my savior for the power to stay clean and free from sin. It is through Jesus that I can always say no to temptation.
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Until you don't. Happens every day to people you would never think.
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04-30-2013, 02:18 PM
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Re: Saved vs striving to be saved??
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This is an off shoot from the standards thread.
Usually when an apostolic is asked if they are saved the answer a lot of times is "I am striving to be saved". I think this comes from not knowing the gospel and what really happened at the cross and what Christ has done for us.
Many times Paul uses word "saved" in regards to the saints.
What think ye? are you saved or striving to get saved?
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I always wonder what circles you guys hang out in.
I can't recall hearing an Apostolic say that. I am not striving to be saved.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-30-2013, 02:20 PM
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Re: Saved vs striving to be saved??
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Can I ask you this, What is your definition of being sin free?
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Short answer, missing the mark.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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04-30-2013, 02:21 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Saved vs striving to be saved??
1.to exert oneself vigorously; try hard: He strove to make himself understood.
2.to make strenuous efforts toward any goal: to strive for success.
3.to contend in opposition, battle, or any conflict; compete.
4.to struggle vigorously, as in opposition or resistance: to strive against fate.
5.to rival; vie.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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04-30-2013, 02:26 PM
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Re: Saved vs striving to be saved??
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I always wonder what circles you guys hang out in.
I can't recall hearing an Apostolic say that. I am not striving to be saved.
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It's actually a common answer when asked if saved.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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