Paul's gospel must be accepted

[bbyrd009]

you might redefine 'everlasting' as 'it will always, always be like this,' maybe.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

you might redefine 'everlasting' as 'it will always, always be like this,' maybe.

Very true everlasting = never ending!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Im at about 17 minutes into this video. It is so disgusting. He twists the scriptures by applying scriptures that pertain to Christians BEFORE they were saved to them now. He tries hard to convince his hearers they need do NOTHING at all to be saved. As pathetic as he is he is just one of the huge number saying the same thing.

He thinks Paul taught a different gospel than Jesus.

He teaches a Christian is sinning if they even repent of a sin.

What is this "Preachers" name?

How much obedience does it take to make to heaven? 100%? If so, are you 100% right now?

[Truthseeker]

interesting scripture:

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies , we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
KJV


when were they reconciled? "when we were enemies" Doesn't say "after you believed"

[Luke]

Up until we are saved we are enemies of God so we are reconciled to God when we are saved.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

How much obedience does it take to make to heaven? 100%? If so, are you 100% right now?

Jesus said be perfect. He said only those who do the Fathers will are going to Heaven. Jesus said you shall not test the Lord your God.

If one tries to enter Heaven with sin in their life they are testing God to see if they can. No one has the assurance of Heaven unless they are joined to Christ.

This "preacher" is one of many the enemy is using to confuse and deceive concerning straight forward issues.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Jesus said be perfect. He said only those who do the Fathers will are going to Heaven. Jesus said you shall not test the Lord your God.

If one tries to enter Heaven with sin in their life they are testing God to see if they can. No one has the assurance of Heaven unless they are joined to Christ.

This "preacher" is one of many the enemy is using to confuse and deceive straght forward issues.

You dint answer the question. Are you 100% obedient now?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Luke

Up until we are saved we are enemies of God so we are reconciled to God when we are saved.

It didn't say that.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

You dint answer the question. Are you 100% obedient now?

Consider this. If I had a sin or sins in my life would that excuse anyone else? Of course not. It would just mean I who taught the truth of Bible Perfection either was a hypocrite or simply failed God.

Everyone else who might then mock me would still be fully accountable to doing Gods will.

When we ARE doing Gods will on a regular basis does that make us something great? Super spiritual?

Luke 17:7-10

7But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle , will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat ?8And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup , and gird thyself , and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken ; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink ?9Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.10So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say , We are unprofitable servants : we have done that which was our duty to do .

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Luke

Up until we are saved we are enemies of God so we are reconciled to God when we are saved.

We were reconciled to God at the cross, though you may continue to walk paths of destruction. The act of Adam was attributed to ALL men, how much more the act of righteousness of that ONE man??? Just because a man doesn't believe or acknowledge the effect of Adam's sin, it doesn't diminish the fact of everyone's sin. Just because a man hasn't come to recognize the reconciliation of Christ yet, it does not diminish the fact of his reconciliation. With man it is impossible, but with God all things are possible. Preach as Paul did the "ministry of reconciliation" so that men may embrace the truth, and enter into the life the that already is theirs.
God is love, and though he is angered by evil and its effect on His creation, LOVE never fails. Don't forget God, created the world and all that is in it, therefore the conditions for evil is no surprise to Him. All things were created by Him and for Him, and without Him nothing that was made would have been made. All things will return to the Father, that He may be "...all in all..." He will not tolerate evil when the redemption is complete, the idea that He will maintain evil & human torment endlessly is completely impossible.