Obama supporters shocked at tax increases

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

I am hiding? I havent responded to the post? A politician lied? Again, it was a temporary tax cut. You GOPers dont understand temporary. Thats why you whine and act like the world would end if the bush tax cuts expired. We cant complain about Medicare/SSI and then not expect to pay for it. But hey lets give out trillion dollar tax cuts for everyone and start two wars and ramp up spending.That would be the conservative thing to do.

You are obfuscating the issue, which was Obama making it sound like middle income taxes would not go up on his watch.

He campaigned on that idea. He campaigned on the "stick it to the rich guy" idea

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

Sorry. Why did you ask your original question?

hahaha, I like you.

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You are obfuscating the issue, which was Obama making it sound like middle income taxes would not go up on his watch.

He campaigned on that idea. He campaigned on the "stick it to the rich guy" idea

I know what he said and what has happened. What more do you want me to say? He extended the payroll cut several times. Its time to let it go. 2% is all its going back to. Payroll taxes should not be messed with. I would feel it a bunch more if my federal rate was going up. It isnt. Thats why I could care less.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

When you adjust for inflation Reagan increased spending by 9.6%. Obama 9.9 and Bush 16.5. Of course a GOPer would call a program that takes care of seniors a joke. Did you fallow the fiscall cliff negotiations? Hardly ramming anything through. He compromised a ton. Executive orders? He is on pace to sign as many as GW Jr. He tries to work with the GOP. You support the party of NO!

Thats a strawman, if you adjust for inflation? What inflation?

Yes, Social Security is a joke. The Dems would like you to believe that it is some savings account for seniors. There is no savings account, there is no special lock box. It comes from the same honey hole.

Yes, I followed the negotiations. The only compromise was moving the tax increase from the $200k range to the $400K range. And yet those who make less than that still have to pay more.

He has done nothing to work with the GOP, that is a lie from your lips and you know it. There were no negotiations. Boehner has already backed out of any further one on one meetings with Obamer because it is one sided.

Geez, the whole Obamacare was a onesided, ram through.

And the funniest part is that the new tax bill was pushed through with even MORE liberal spending instead of less.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

You are obfuscating the issue, which was Obama making it sound like middle income taxes would not go up on his watch.

He campaigned on that idea. He campaigned on the "stick it to the rich guy" idea

Obwhating? Nevermind, I will look it up.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

I know what he said and what has happened. What more do you want me to say? He extended the payroll cut several times. Its time to let it go. 2% is all its going back to. Payroll taxes should not be messed with. I would feel it a bunch more if my federal rate was going up. It isnt. Thats why I could care less.

Don't forget the cost of healthcare has went up too.

Unless your one of those who will ride the free healthcare coat tail.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by odooley6985

I know what he said and what has happened. What more do you want me to say? He extended the payroll cut several times. Its time to let it go. 2% is all its going back to. Payroll taxes should not be messed with. I would feel it a bunch more if my federal rate was going up. It isnt. Thats why I could care less.

Admit Obama and the Democrats deceived America to win an election?

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Admit Obama and the Democrats deceived America to win an election?

Really? No they didnt. He still fought tooth and nail for the middle class. They payroll tax wasnt the only thing that was set to go up like I said.

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by scotty

Don't forget the cost of healthcare has went up too.

Unless your one of those who will ride the free healthcare coat tail.

I dont ride no ones coat tails. I know you and your kind like to think that all Dems are lazy minorities. My healthcare goes up every year. Everyone's does. 2013 I actually saw a decrease.

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by scotty

Thats a strawman, if you adjust for inflation? What inflation?

Yes, Social Security is a joke. The Dems would like you to believe that it is some savings account for seniors. There is no savings account, there is no special lock box. It comes from the same honey hole.

Yes, I followed the negotiations. The only compromise was moving the tax increase from the $200k range to the $400K range. And yet those who make less than that still have to pay more.

He has done nothing to work with the GOP, that is a lie from your lips and you know it. There were no negotiations. Boehner has already backed out of any further one on one meetings with Obamer because it is one sided.

Geez, the whole Obamacare was a onesided, ram through.

And the funniest part is that the new tax bill was pushed through with even MORE liberal spending instead of less.

You just cant stand the fact that Obama has increased spending as much as your GOP beloved Reagan and less than "Give trillion dollar tax cuts to all and fight two wars on credit." Bush. What spending do we cut? Have you heard what the GOP want? Again the GOP want to cut Medicare/SSI. Somehow letting taxes for the rich go up 3% is class warefare, yet giving the rich more tax cutes on the back of cuts for seniors isnt? Less people are working and paying taxes. We are still spending as much as the last conservative administration. That is why we are in debt and running on a defecit. GOP wants Medicare/SSI cuts. Obama wants military defense cuts.