IN Senator, "God Intended Pregnant Rape Victim"

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

God ordained a natural biological occurance.

if that is true then God does not intend pregnancy from rape and the senator is wrong.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Come on DM, stop being obtuse. you know the point here is not what Murdoc said at all. The point is to embarres the republican and make him look like an idiot.

mourdok is running for senator who will vote on supreme court justices, not just a dumb comment to be brushed aside,he has radical beliefs that should reflect on his qualifications to be senator. imho.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Sam

Good thing only Republicans say dumb stuff to keep the media going.

Yup! I think it's worth noting that God's explanation @ 'Pharoah' would be quite different than Pharoah's,
even after the fact. Meaning that God took direct responsibility
in those passages, for P's hard heart;just like He does for your-
-or I guess my is a better way to put it--'hard heart.'

As hard as it is to understand (don't try),
it was God's will that _____ got pregnant
in the manner described, at least put one way.
But this assumes a direct intervention from God,
when I believe that cause and effect (sow/reap)
dictates an outcome, and I might go so far as to say God
can not intervene there (w/o abrogating free will)
(negating? lol, sorry)(which God will not do, your free will
is sacred to God)(which is why you should be so
careful in your speech-I'm herding goats because of mine,
so reader beware)

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

mourdok is running for senator who will vote on supreme court justices, not just a dumb comment to be brushed aside,he has radical beliefs that should reflect on his qualifications to be senator. imho.

And you, a devoted member of a kingdom, should care less? I'd love to know his opinion on exempting himself and his cronies from the common wile, in direct violation of the constitution. Nah, I really don't.

[crakjak]

Mr. Murdock cannot help himself, he is a Calvinist. Therefore, God intends every event that occurs, and there is a case that can be made for this doctrine.

I believe man's God given measure of freewill, allows for evil, God will eventually redeem all evil, but I just cannot accept Mr. Murdock's premise.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

1. You misquoted the Senator. He did NOT say "God intended pregnant rape victim" so you shouldn't have placed that in quotes as if it was a direct quote. Here's what he actually said:

"I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God. And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen"

MEANING, the LIFE is what God intended or allowed; not the rape.

2. Anyone who isn't Christian will probably not understand the concept or the belief that God can take something evil and turn it to good.
3. Anyone who sees a baby as a blessing, and life as a gift from God will understand the meaning in point #2.
4. Anyone who sees a baby as a burden or a curse will fail to comprehend.

I completely understand what the Senator was saying, and I tend to agree. Again, those who see a pregnancy as a curse will not be able to comprehend WHY it could be good coming from evil.

This is not a misstatement on the part of the Senator; it is a reflection of how different conservative values are from liberal values.

Well Ms Bratti pretty much said what I was about to... especially the intentional misquote in the thread title.

[Hoovie]

D M, Is your point here that a life (soul) conceived in rape is somehow less valuable than others, or that no ones' life has an intention of God?

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

D M, Is your point here that a life (soul) conceived in rape is somehow less valuable than others, or that no ones' life has an intention of God?

i am saying that God did not intend for a rape victim to get pregnant in opposition to the senate candidate.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

i am saying that God did not intend for a rape victim to get pregnant in opposition to the senate candidate.

I did not see where he said that. Do you have a quote?

What I saw was where he said "God intended" the beginning of life. Are you of the opinion that God's intent and blessing is on only some human life?

[trialedbyfire]

Now not ONE of you baby killing liberals will sit here and look into the face of a child conceived and born out of a rape and say "you should have been aborted because God did not intend for you to be born".

You democrats know good and well what the Senator said but you twist his words to mean something that he didn't intend for your own sick political agendas. He was saying EVEN CHILDREN OF RAPE HAVE PURPOSE IN THE SIGHT OF ALL MIGHTY GOD.