Reality Check on Bound and Unbound Delegates

[Pressing-On]

The RNC had no problem when Florida and Arizona violated party rules by holding winner-take-all primaries prior to the date the rules said such contests could happen.

The RNC didn't step in when the Iowa Republican party screwed up the counting of votes and lost the results from several precincts.

The RNC sat idly by while the Maine Republican leadership declared Romney the winner despite the fact that many votes hadn't yet been counted.

The RNC didn't care when the state of Michigan changed their rules at the last minute to hand all the at-large delegates to Romney instead of splitting them with Santorum.

The RNC had nothing to say when hundreds of people were illegally turned away from party caucus sites in Washington State,

The RNC didn't care when police had to be called to caucuses in Missouri, where local party leaders gamed the system to benefit their chosen candidates.

The RNC had no problem when Nevada Republicans attempted to hold a special caucus only for religiously-observant people and then took two full days to count the results.

Time after time throughout this campaign, the RNC has been willing to ignore their own rules and blatant attempts to manipulate the delegate selection process. But now they say they will not seat Nevada if too many Paul supporters end up getting elected as delegates by following the rules and showing up and voting?

[canam]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

This is what we want to happen and I am hoping that Ron Paul can bring it!

What can that accomplish? i dont get it

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by canam

What can that accomplish? i dont get it

Paul takes 22 Nevada GOP delegates; Romney gets three

GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul on Sunday nearly swept all of Nevada’s delegates to the national convention as his supporters swamped Mitt Romney backers at the state Republican convention.

Paul won 22 Nevada delegates to three for Romney, according to official vote tallies released early Sunday as the overtime convention extended into a second day to finish business.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/paul-takes-...150345275.html

Where in the world is Digging4Truth!!!!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by canam

What can that accomplish? i dont get it

The "magic number" this year is 1,144 delegates -- half of the total who will attend the Convention. Romney's pattern is to win, but not quite get to the 50% mark -- after Maine, he has about 47% of the delegates. When delegates go to the convention, they are committed to vote for the nominee for whom they were elected on the FIRST ballot. If the current pattern continues, Romney will get 47% on the first ballot -- not enough to win -- so the delegates are then free to vote for whomever they prefer on the second ballot and subsequent ballots. That is a "brokered convention" -- anyone can win, even someone who did not run in the primaries, because the delegates can vote for anyone they like.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2012_Brokered_Convention.htm

And at a Brokered Convention, a favored candidate can be drafted in. This is what we are pushing for.

Today, I heard Greta saying that Romney's campaign is in trouble if people like Gingrich, Bachmann, Perry, etc. are saying, "Well, Romney would be better than Obama." Her point is that these statements are showing "unenthusiastic support" for the presumed nominee. We need a Brokered Convention.

And we may not get it, but at least you can be guaranteed there are people in this country, like myself, who are not afraid to stand up and fight for the American people. At least give us that if you don't agree or quite understand what we are about.

[Pressing-On]

I imagine the RNC is mad as you know what double toothpicks!

With Romney all but the nominee, Ron Paul snags delegate majority at Maine’s GOP convention

With Romney’s nomination all but decided, Ron Paul supporters wrested control of the Maine Republican Convention and elected a majority slate supporting the Texas congressman to the GOP national convention, party officials said as the two-day convention neared its end Sunday. The results gave the Texas congressman a late state victory.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...05T_story.html

[Dedicated Mind]

go ron paul! great news po.

[Pressing-On]

Breaking news: Ron Paul wins Iowa! (Yes, Iowa)

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012...iowa-yes-iowa/

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Reading this article paragraph below, would this be the point in the video, that Rule 38 does not conflict with Rule 11?

Recap:

RNC Rule 38: No delegate or alternate delegate shall be bound by any attempt of any state or congressional district to impose the Unit Rule.

RNC Rule 11: All delegates from one state or congressional district are required and bound to vote as a unit.

More misinformation.

RNC Rule 11:

(a) The Republican National Committee shall
not, without the prior written and filed approval of all
members of the Republican National Committee from the state involved, contribute money or in-kind aid to
any candidate for any public or party office except the
nominee of the Republican Party or a candidate who is
unopposed in the Republican primary after the filing
deadline for that office. In those states where state law
establishes a nonpartisan primary in which Republican
candidates could participate, but in which the general
election may not include a Republican candidate, the
candidate endorsed by a convention held under the
authority of the state Republican Party shall be recognized by the Republican National Committee as
the Republican nominee.
(b) No state Republican Party rule or state
law shall be observed that allows persons who have
participated or are participating in the selection of any
nominee of a party other than the Republican Party,
including, but not limited to, through the use of a multiparty primary or similar type ballot, to participate in the
selection of a nominee of the Republican Party for that
general election. No person nominated in violation of
this rule shall be recognized by the Republican National
Committee as the nominee of the Republican Party
from that state.

http://www.gop.com/images/legal/2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by jfrog

More misinformation.

RNC Rule 11:


http://www.gop.com/images/legal/2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf

Thanks!

I was checking the information and received this:

Ok, I need to clarify this. Rule 38 does not apply to the situation in NV.

Clearly the guy reporting doesn't understand what the Unit rule is. The Unit rule is like "Winner take all," the winner gets all the votes.

It does not override the state plans put in place under rule 15B. In fact, the
state plan under 15 B that was winner take all.... was changed. All the primaries are proportional. All the states are proportional.... unless they had a NON BINDING PPP and caucus (like MO) or a blind primary (PA).

According to NV's state plan, the delegate assignments go based on the results of the vote in late January (just after Florida?). Mitt Romney received a huge portion, that is why he has most of the delegates.

Therefore Rule 38 does not apply.

Now, here is the question we SHOULD be asking...

IF there was no voter fraud, then how is it that delegates for Romney have not materialized? I mean, if he HONESTLY won the state, then how is it he is having a tough time getting delegates elected? HUM??? How is it that a guy who was a distant second is getting his peeps voted in? Did Romney win the election honestly? Was there some kind of chicanery?

[Pressing-On]

Interesting article.

Ron Paul Could Still Win Enough Delegates To Deny Mitt Romney The Republican Nomination

Despite what you may have heard from the mainstream media, Mitt Romney does not have the Republican nomination locked up.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/arc...can-nomination