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04-17-2012, 03:06 PM
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Re: Ron Paul Winning Delegates With Santorum Suppo
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Originally Posted by crakjak
He will then be purged of his sin!!! As I said, I don't like the negative of politics, and each of us will be judged for our works, good and bad.
I will refrain from itemizing Newt or Ron's faults. What of Obama's lies, they are effecting our nation at the roots, hopefully Mitt's are political rhetoric.
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You can say Romney is not like Obama, but he is.
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RUSH: Daniel Henninger said Mitt Romney is not naturally conservative. He's going to have to be nudged in that direction. That's true. It's not a particularly unique point, but still true. Now on Sunday night Romney was here in Palm Beach for a big fundraiser. Word has leaked out about some of the things that he said to the donors. These are things that he's not said publicly in terms of specifics on policy, and one of the things that he talked about was a tax plan. He wants to lower rates but eliminate some deductions for the rich. And I have to tell you, folks, I'm not comfortable with the Republican nominee talking about special plans for "the rich," special plans for "Hispanics."
That was part of it, too. He was saying we're gonna have to do some special outreach for Hispanics, special outreach for women. No, we don't. Not as conservatives. We don't have to have special policies for this group and that group or special whatever. One of the tax ideas was to eliminate... Now, get this: Eliminate the mortgage deductibility on second homes. Now, that's populism. We're talking an amount of money that's no different than the Buffett Rule. It's a shame. His capital gains idea is also a little curious, because it, too, is targeting "the rich," anybody making over $200,000 jointly and introduces progressivity into the tax which seems fair or what have you.
These are not the things that a Republican, much less a conservative nominee, needs to be talking about or saying. This is Rockefeller Republicanism. This is identity politics. It's the kind of stuff that the left talks about.
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04-17-2012, 10:48 PM
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Re: Ron Paul Winning Delegates With Santorum Suppo
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You can say Romney is not like Obama, but he is.
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See, that is were most Republicans will disagree with you, you don't even acknowledge Romneys value over Obama. This may be your honest opinion, but it is just wrong.
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04-18-2012, 09:52 AM
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Re: Ron Paul Winning Delegates With Santorum Suppo
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19 states have not voted. Is this Obama, no it's Obama's twin - Romney
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Obama's twin? And you have the chutzpah to call my question stupid?
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04-18-2012, 09:56 AM
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Re: Ron Paul Winning Delegates With Santorum Suppo
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I never said anything about Paul winning the election. I just shared a campaign strategy I heard about.
I'd tell Romney where he could go for his lies, but the Bible already says, "... and all LIARS shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.."
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But you'll support an ADULTERER for president? Not only dishonest but a cheat. Your logic is duplicitous. Aren't WHOREMONGERS listed in that group going to the lake?
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04-18-2012, 09:57 AM
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Re: Ron Paul Winning Delegates With Santorum Suppo
PO, it seems to me you are so anti-Romney because he beat your candidate. He beat mine too. My concern is another 4 years of Obama, not 4 years of someone who is not near as extreme.
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04-18-2012, 10:24 AM
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Re: Ron Paul Winning Delegates With Santorum Suppo
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See, that is were most Republicans will disagree with you, you don't even acknowledge Romneys value over Obama. This may be your honest opinion, but it is just wrong.
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Obama's twin? And you have the chutzpah to call my question stupid?
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On Romney's environmental record, he hired Douglas Foy (Obama's economic adviser) one of the state's most prominent environmentalist activists and put him in charge of four state agencies. Foy stood by Romney's side in 2003 at a coal plant to show his support of emission caps. Romney then implemented job-killing carbon caps - the first and only state to set CO2 emissions limits on power plants - even though studies showed that Australia's proposed carbon tax would have skyrocketing costs and blackouts.
Obama's plan: "Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates will necessarily skyrocket.
Of course, we have RomneyCare and Obamacare. Any "mandate" would be an intrusion of liberty at the Federal as well as state level.
Romney supported the TARP bailouts in 2008 as did Obama saying, "Step up and do the right thing."
Romney is not in style nor substance a natural conservative. He may be conservative enough to be the nominee, but he is more like Obama. Obama being awkward in his "aloofness" and Romeny more graceful in his.
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04-18-2012, 10:39 AM
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Re: Ron Paul Winning Delegates With Santorum Suppo
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But you'll support an ADULTERER for president? Not only dishonest but a cheat. Your logic is duplicitous. Aren't WHOREMONGERS listed in that group going to the lake?
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I had that very attitude that you display here. I'm on record for it, like you are here.
However, something interesting happened during the SC debate. When John King was questioning Gingrich about the Marianne interview, Gingrich pointed out to the audience and said, “Every person in here knows personal pain. Every person in here has had someone close to them go through painful things."
When I was listening, I was thinking, "I was wrong about him." I realized that Christianity didn't have a better record itself, how could I judge Gingrich, who has repented? The Christian church has the same statistics on divorce as the secular world. Who was I to judge?
And I would note that Marianne was Gingrich's "24-year old" Geometry teacher. Gingrich was "16". Today, that woman would be in jail. If he never makes it to the WH, I am grateful he has found peace in his life with Callista, who has never been married before.
“There were things in my life that I have been very public about saying were, in fact, well short of the glory of God and I had to go to God to seek forgiveness. I never went to God to seek understanding. And I was never confused. That is, there are periods of my life where I have sinned.”
“I come to you as a citizen who has sought redemption and has sought God's love and recognizes that you have to shelter under the cross to have any hope of living a full life."
You cast the first stone, Deacon. I put mine down.
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PO, it seems to me you are so anti-Romney because he beat your candidate. He beat mine too. My concern is another 4 years of Obama, not 4 years of someone who is not near as extreme.
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I have my doubts he will beat Obama.
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04-18-2012, 11:18 AM
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Re: Ron Paul Winning Delegates With Santorum Suppo
Another example of Romney's leftist views and propaganda:
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Newt Gingrich released the following statement opposing Governor Romney’s plan to limit home mortgage tax deductions based on income level and affirming his belief in a tax code that treats every American equally under the law:
“Governor Romney’s proposal to limit certain tax deductions based on income, including the deduction for mortgage interest on second homes, is a surrender to the class warfare rhetoric of the Left.
“Conservatives believe in the classical American definition of fairness – that every American be treated equally under the law. That principle of equal treatment must apply to Americans of every income level just as it must apply to Americans of every race, color and creed.
“Governor Romney’s tax proposal violates that principle by giving politicians the power to carve out exceptions in the law for people of certain incomes. Furthermore, it sets the stage for future tax increases, as politicians will continually try to decrease the income threshold where citizens will no longer be able to avail themselves of the deductions."
My proposal for an optional 15% flat tax treats all Americans equally and allows them to either keep the current deductions and all the paperwork or move to a very simple system of equal treatment for all Americans with a one page form."
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NEWT!!!!
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04-23-2012, 03:23 PM
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Re: Ron Paul Winning Delegates With Santorum Suppo
Yikes, Dagwood! Romney panic - awesome!!!
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