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Old 02-17-2012, 12:50 PM
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Re: Your thoughts vs. God's thoughts

anyone else think our threads are getting weirder?
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But that's exactly what he is talking about. He has conversations with spirits, via the thoughts in his mind. Voices in his head.
The Christian-Schizo link.
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I haven't heard it yet...
OK, then, just for you.

My answer: thoughts are never given to you by God, or by any other spirit. They are always from "you", even if they don't seem like it sometimes.

Come to think of it, I may not have given this answer before, this plainly. Well, now you have it, anyway.
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The Christian-Schizo link.
Maybe, but I'm not sure how else you might interpret

http://bible.cc/1_john/4-2.htm

? A spirit can only interact with your mind. This goes to the heart of a complete understanding of free will. I am open to higher truth here, should you ever post any.

"Pointing out a lie," or denigrating a truth you do not grasp, but cannmot provide a fuller meaning for, is not telling a truth, sorry.
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Maybe, but I'm not sure how else you might interpret

http://bible.cc/1_john/4-2.htm

? A spirit can only interact with your mind. This goes to the heart of a complete understanding of free will. I am open to higher truth here, should you ever post any.

"Pointing out a lie," or denigrating a truth you do not grasp, but cannmot provide a fuller meaning for, is not telling a truth, sorry.
This is about people. If a person denies the hypostasis, that person does not have the Spirit of God. Has nothing to do with interrogating voices in your head.
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OK, then, just for you.

My answer: thoughts are never given to you by God, or by any other spirit. They are always from "you", even if they don't seem like it sometimes.

Come to think of it, I may not have given this answer before, this plainly. Well, now you have it, anyway.
IYO, is what Christians refer to as the leading of the Spirit just human intuition?
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anyone else think our threads are getting weirder?
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The Christian-Schizo link.

You want dichotomy? Cuz you got dichotomy. I got a little unrealized dichotomy for you...well, not you or Timmy, actually.
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But that's exactly what he is talking about. He has conversations with spirits, via the thoughts in his mind. Voices in his head.
Call it what you like, deny it if you want, but it's just the angel on one shoulder, and the devil on the other, pick a model. That one is great--just turn your head one way or the other when you interrogate them, if that helps.

Discernment is going to rock your world. The Bible gives no indication that this is reserved for the chosen. Anyone may seek discernment, and find it in this way. If your conversations in your head are currently one-way, and you have never tested a spirit, you have not experienced discernment yet.

You may have worked out another path that adheres to this principle or its cousin Lots, but examination will show you that this is what you are doing. This is purposely obscured for Christians via the "hearing voices in your head" thing we associate with psychosis, its evil shodow, notably actually meaning "slavishly obeying the voices in my head sans testing."

This is just another expression of "free will." Those embarrassing, weird thoughts that come at you, that you would never, ever tell anyone of, and might even suffer some kind of guilt feelings over? (stop, mmmkay? that's bad)-is that you? Exactly. It does not become "you" until you "take it in," start dwelling on it...

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IYO, is what Christians refer to as the leading of the Spirit just human intuition?
That's the most common explanation of it, I'd say, which itself is merely the result of the human brain working in the background. It's amazing how we can do that, working out a problem or considering a decision, processing information that we didn't even consciously know we had or remember acquiring, and suddenly, an answer pops up, as if from "nowhere". Other times, we just get random thoughts that may not be in any way beneficial, if we were to act on them. Thinking they came from God doesn't help. Thinking, "whoa, that was weird" and dismissing them would be the best response.

There are also cases of mental illness or drug effects, of course. And it sure doesn't help to think those thoughts are from God!
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OK, then, just for you.

My answer: thoughts are never given to you by God, or by any other spirit. They are always from "you", even if they don't seem like it sometimes.

Come to think of it, I may not have given this answer before, this plainly. Well, now you have it, anyway.
I also completely agree with this. The truth is not complete in us yet here, either, and both of these viewpoints will sound naive in ______ years, prolly.
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