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Old 08-26-2010, 12:45 PM
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And exactly how deep does the accountability go? Do you really want the United States Government have that kind of authority over who builds and who doesn't? Surely not.
It is as simple as wanting to know where the money is coming from to fund the mosque. When asked if the funds were coming from Iran, the answer was, "No comment." If coming from Saudi Arabia, they are they largest proponents of Sharia Law. If this was not of such a concern, Oklahoma and Louisiana would not be working on bills to insure that Sharia would not come in and try to usurp our Constitution.

So, if we find that a place is being funded by a terrorist country, I think it is logical that the place should not be built.

Thus far, you and others are pushing this thing to be built and you don't seem to be particularly concerned where the money is coming from. If coming from Iran or Saudi Arabia, it is as we said, a building of provocation.

Is that the kind of freedom that you want - anything goes, even the plans to destroy our country? Again, our freedom is based on accountability.

You have a right to bear arms. If you use those arms to commit a heinous crime, such as murder, your rights are taken away. Freedom comes with a price.

We simply do not want a mosque built in a place that is part of Ground Zero (discussed plane wreckage on another thread) and we do not want it built by a man that is not truthful in what he is about. You can say that Bush supported him as an emissary to the Muslim world, but we are just getting a handle on what Sharia Law is capable of and the direction it is taking. And we know that Rauf is a supporter of Sharia Law.
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I think I'm more concerned about China owning us.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...diQR7gTLkrwSpL
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This is all I have to say about "The Mosque Should Be Built".... (not original with me)

Mr.Obama..while we are at it can we go ahead and put a beautiful statue of Lee Harvey
Oswald on the grassy knoll in Dallas and maybe even throw a
huge celebration shrine over the Pearl Harbor monument in honor of
the Japanese victory that took place there....yes, Mr. President IT IS
...THE......SAME THING as allowing a mosque to be built on ground zero.



And while we're on the subject, I suppose you agree with Hillary Clinton that this is "money well spent" !

Using our taxpayer dollars to rebuild mosques around the world:

http://action.afa.net/email/online.a..._campaign=1034

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It is as simple as wanting to know where the money is coming from to fund the mosque. When asked if the funds were coming from Iran, the answer was, "No comment." If coming from Saudi Arabia, they are they largest proponents of Sharia Law. If this was not of such a concern, Oklahoma and Louisiana would not be working on bills to insure that Sharia would not come in and try to usurp our Constitution.

So, if we find that a place is being funded by a terrorist country, I think it is logical that the place should not be built.

Thus far, you and others are pushing this thing to be built and you don't seem to be particularly concerned where the money is coming from. If coming from Iran or Saudi Arabia, it is as we said, a building of provocation.

Is that the kind of freedom that you want - anything goes, even the plans to destroy our country? Again, our freedom is based on accountability.

You have a right to bear arms. If you use those arms to commit a heinous crime, such as murder, your rights are taken away. Freedom comes with a price.

We simply do not want a mosque built in a place that is part of Ground Zero (discussed plane wreckage on another thread) and we do not want it built by a man that is not truthful in what he is about. You can say that Bush supported him as an emissary to the Muslim world, but we are just getting a handle on what Sharia Law is capable of and the direction it is taking. And we know that Rauf is a supporter of Sharia Law.

All muslims believe that Sharia is God's law.

America has a long history of questionable funding for certain projects. Just consider Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Heck, good part of New York City has been funded by the old mafia.

But regardless, is the leader of this mosque group obligated to reveal where his funding is coming from? When has that question EVER been asked of Jim Cymbala in New York, or David Wilkerson, or any number of synagogues? Do you not think there are Jewish Synagogues in New York that have been built by militant radicals that are every bit as violent as some in the Islamic radical community?

So why are we going to subject this group to questioning about their funding? This pathway still opens the same door...if we can make them reveal their funding, the future door will be opened to digging into the details of other churches of every faith.

When in America, we are able to suppress the building of a house of worship outside legal restrictions, the door to all religious suppression will have been opened and will never close again. You don't want that.
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This is all I have to say about "The Mosque Should Be Built".... (not original with me)

Mr.Obama..while we are at it can we go ahead and put a beautiful statue of Lee Harvey
Oswald on the grassy knoll in Dallas and maybe even throw a
huge celebration shrine over the Pearl Harbor monument in honor of
the Japanese victory that took place there....yes, Mr. President IT IS
...THE......SAME THING as allowing a mosque to be built on ground zero.



And while we're on the subject, I suppose you agree with Hillary Clinton that this is "money well spent" !

Using our taxpayer dollars to rebuild mosques around the world:

http://action.afa.net/email/online.a..._campaign=1034

For the church: look up - your redemption draweth nigh !

Ridiculous comparison. Based on this logic, we should prevent all Christian churches from being built because of The Crusades or because the KKK was a Christian group, and the list keeps going.
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Old 08-26-2010, 01:06 PM
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Re: The Mosque Should Be Built!

Mr. Smith........... in the words of a teenage friend.........

Whatever ..........

You have your mind made up - and you are always right. (In your opinion only)

Did you read the link about using taxpayer money to rebuild mosques around the world?
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I think I'm more concerned about China owning us.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...diQR7gTLkrwSpL
I'm not as concerned with this. China does quite a bit of trading with us and we with them. We obviously can't pay back all of the money and China realizes this. They also know that if the US defaulted, it would put the world into a deeper economic depression. Not one wants that, not even China.
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I think I'm more concerned about China owning us.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...diQR7gTLkrwSpL
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Old 08-26-2010, 01:16 PM
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All muslims believe that Sharia is God's law.
Very glad you, at least, understand that. Now go and study about Sharia and why it is a grave and dangerous threat to us.

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America has a long history of questionable funding for certain projects. Just consider Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Heck, good part of New York City has been funded by the old mafia.
Islamic jihad will always remain a much graver threat than the mafia.

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But regardless, is the leader of this mosque group obligated to reveal where his funding is coming from? When has that question EVER been asked of Jim Cymbala in New York, or David Wilkerson, or any number of synagogues? Do you not think there are Jewish Synagogues in New York that have been built by militant radicals that are every bit as violent as some in the Islamic radical community?

So why are we going to subject this group to questioning about their funding? This pathway still opens the same door...if we can make them reveal their funding, the future door will be opened to digging into the details of other churches of every faith.

When in America, we are able to suppress the building of a house of worship outside legal restrictions, the door to all religious suppression will have been opened and will never close again. You don't want that.
I think that if they file as a non-profit, they have to disclose. We will see how they handle this.

Before you continue beating your drum and throwing streamers in the air for this mosque to be built. You need to know what the ramifications entail for the future.

My thinking is that under our Constitution, we cannot stop it, but I will not stand by and advocate the building of it either.
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I think I'm more concerned about China owning us.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...diQR7gTLkrwSpL

Excellent point and something we should consider. The damage that China could do to us financially, would pale in comparison to what radical muslims could ever do with violence. And it's subtle...no bombs, no noise. No one notices.
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