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Old 05-02-2007, 10:49 AM
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JT, dude, AM a con? I'd have said more moderate to left of center, but not a con. Remember, even moderates and left of center folks believe in dress standards.

AM has video recording, projecting, fx lighting and other things that forbid him from being joined to that exclusive brotherhood called con.

Also, AM will never be voted in as a General Superintendent. He'd shake things up too much. While he's an apostle that would lead this organization into incredible revival - I think too many people are afraid of him. He'd end up calling for resignations of HQ officials who haven't won a soul or committed themselves to outreach.

The UPC isn't ready for AM as its GS.
Did you miss the part where I went back and agreed he is a mod? Guess so. I am not sying AM would be voted in as GS, but I am saying there was a prophecy said over him. But never said anthing about GS. But if there is a split I could see him leading the mods and Libs. That would be cool. But not GS in its current state.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:03 AM
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Also, AM will never be voted in as a General Superintendent. He'd shake things up too much. While he's an apostle that would lead this organization into incredible revival - I think too many people are afraid of him. He'd end up calling for resignations of HQ officials who haven't won a soul or committed themselves to outreach.
That's what was said about Bishop KH when he came in .... the only major head to roll is now seated in the diocesan seat in Virginia ....

and everything is still business as usual ...
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:03 AM
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Old News.....got wind of his statements that night. Caused some controversy too....but.......that is in the past.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:23 AM
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You are for sure Dead Wrong...as a matter of fact...the man that has already been voted in to become Sr. Pastor when AM turns 65 is more con than AM..
You sound pretty confident with this statement.

But I'm not convinced.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:28 AM
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That's what was said about Bishop KH when he came in .... the only major head to roll is now seated in the diocesan seat in Virginia ....

and everything is still business as usual ...
Hmmm . . . as much as I like Bishop H, I didn't think he'd do much as GS. IMO he's no AM. Perhaps it's just my experience going to all the BOTTs years ago and not really hearing Bishop H preach much.

What I heard when Bishop H was voted in was fear that the UPC would tilt liberal and lose its holiness. Not that he would shake down HQ and lead towards revival. Quite the opposite is what I heard.
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:19 PM
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Did any of you hear that Bro. Anthony Mangun is for the TV resolution? I have the dvd from BOTT '07 and he said that he was for it. What do think this will do for the cons? He is one of the most con guys out there. Does it put the other cons in a tough position? Chaotic and I were discussing this the other day. We both think that is does. Alot of cons look to him, in a since, for direction. Let me know what you think.
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:23 PM
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Did any of you hear that Bro. Anthony Mangun is for the TV resolution? I have the dvd from BOTT '07 and he said that he was for it. What do think this will do for the cons? He is one of the most con guys out there. Does it put the other cons in a tough position? Chaotic and I were discussing this the other day. We both think that is does. Alot of cons look to him, in a since, for direction. Let me know what you think.
A FRINGE_NUTTER can be on the fringe of either side and is considered a fringe nutter by both sides. Why talk of CONS and LIBS? Just be a FRINGE_NUTTER like me.
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:30 PM
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IN my neck of the woods, ccn, he is a liberal - in ULTRA CON TERRITORY.
You are right in your last statement, sonny.

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I don't think AM has ever been described as a conservative on here before!

I, of course, think he is and when I have visited it is still 98% the old time Pentecostal look with long hair, no makeup,etc but definite conservatives claim he is liberal and cite things like short sleeve shirts on the men, video screens, light makeup (face powder / base) on a few woman and possibly some dead ends trimmed off the womens long hair. Not to mention TV in the saints home!

I think it is broadly accepted in Pentecost that AM is a moderate, ultra cons would say even liberal.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:16 PM
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maybe that is why I like him so much is because I am a Lib too
I like him too, he is a commited man after the heart of God.
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How old is AM now???
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