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Old 05-01-2007, 12:59 PM
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Article was interesting but not realistic. Positions that are entrenched for decades are not going to change suddenly.

The "traditionalists" from their very description are unwilling to look at things in a new paradigm. They fear the TV resolution is the doorway to hell for the org. and nothing is going to change their minds or make them consider it any differently.

This article is pie in the sky. The kind of thing that makes a nice college thesis to get a good grade from a liberal professor looking for ways to make peace in the world and for everybody just to get along.

Kent Curry is by all acounts a very smart man but the only people this article is going to reach are the ones who are already for the resolution or on the fence.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:13 PM
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Yes, I am a traditionalist. I admit it, and am willing to wear that badge proudly. What I see, more and more, is a spirit of laziness and sloth, desiring the easiest way to do things, instead of time honored traditions which have worked wonderfully in the past.
Time honored traditions?! Okay then...let's hang on to the 19th century and forget modern inventions.

Let's go back to horse and buggy and no electricity and running water.

Do you have a cell hone?! Ever use it to see if someone would like to go to church with you?!

See what I mean here, Bro. P...?! The television is not the evil thing in this issue, IMHO...it is the division it is creating between brethren of like precious faith.

That, to me, is the greater sin...
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:14 PM
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My take on the issue would render me in the "Reluctant Progressive" category.

I feel, as with many issues, we need to take things for face value.

Television, for instance, is only as moral as the most vulgar show that your television can display. If you run Sky Angel Network you have a safe solution. If you have a big name cable company such as Comcast or in the west Cox, then sadly the moral compass may be TBN so your kids or even yourself can be spoon fed filtered propaganda.

Why would a church ever want to associate itself with such?

When I turn on the tube (meaning my 300 channel monitor) I don't associate every commercial with the station. As a matter of fact its often reverse, if the channel is TBN and I see a commercial for Victoria Secret, then TBN took the hit, not VS for associating with religion....

After making that point I also want to ask what other methods of advertising do you have? Community charity? Outreach programs? After school babysitting (Latchkey)? Why do you want to use that median, has clothing the naked, feeding the hungry, and sheltering the homeless proven insufficient?

When I was a young lad, much younger than I am now (for inquiring minds I am 19) I had the impression that major colleges should live off of the reputation they built for themselves... Much to my dismay before I moved from the great Republic of California to Indiana I saw some Harvard commercials. I assumed enrollment was down... that meant they were low on cash... What is the motive behind such a medium of advertisement... .....
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:16 PM
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I think they ought to just put the whole thing on hold for a few Years.

Why?? because everything is going to merge into one .

I'm really curious as to how conservatives will respond to technology in the next few years
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I think they ought to just put the whole thing on hold for a few Years.

Why?? because everything is going to merge into one .

I'm really curious as to how conservatives will respond to technology in the next few years
Easy...they will utilize it.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:24 PM
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Easy...they will utilize it.

you really think so?? untilize it in what way ??
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you really think so?? untilize it in what way ??
Thad....they are using the internet and other technology now. Goodness....you can get movies and TV programs on your iPod. When TV merges with internet and what not...it will be one of those...."we choose not to go there...that is part of the library we do not visit."
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Thad....they are using the internet and other technology now. Goodness....you can get movies and TV programs on your iPod. When TV merges with internet and what not...it will be one of those...."we choose not to go there...that is part of the library we do not visit."

All i have to say is, it's going to be interesting.

I remember when "MONITORS" were preached against in the 80s.
the SKy was falling. and now they have computers ? ? ? ?????

ALL computers today have DVD players !!!!!!
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Yes, I am a traditionalist. I admit it, and am willing to wear that badge proudly. What I see, more and more, is a spirit of laziness and sloth, desiring the easiest way to do things, instead of time honored traditions which have worked wonderfully in the past.
Brother Price, you'd fit right in with the Pharisees. They too were "traditionalists" who had "time honored traditions" in the times of the Gospels. Of course, those "time honored traditions" were crushed with the advent of the Cross and the message of Christ.

You can keep your time honored traditions of men, I'll stick with the radical rebel who angered those traditionalists.




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DUMB
Someone please tell Kent he isn't as smart as people credit him for being!
What's so "dumb" about the article?
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Brother Price, you'd fit right in with the Pharisees. They too were "traditionalists" who had "time honored traditions" in the times of the Gospels. Of course, those "time honored traditions" were crushed with the advent of the Cross and the message of Christ.

You can keep your time honored traditions of men, I'll stick with the radical rebel who angered those traditionalists.





What's so "dumb" about the article?
you didn't read my second post.
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