Feast Of Tabernacles And Christ's birth ?

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The feast of tabernacles consists of the whole life of the Gospel in the earth. That is why it says year to year. The feast was a memorial for the travels in the wilderness. And this is fulfilled spiritually as Peter noted our pilgrimage.

1 Peter 2:11 KJV Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

Paul said the same.

Ephesians 2:19 KJV Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Abraham looked for what we now have.

Hebrews 11:9-10 KJV By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: (10) For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

We have that heavenly city now. Many look for a physical city. The things that are seen are temporal, and it is the unseen things that are eternal and forever. So, if the Kingdom is eternal it cannot be visible or seen.

Hebrews 11:16 KJV But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

We are in that heavenly city.

Hebrews 12:22 KJV But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

We are already come there.

We are spiritually in the promised land. These feasts are a shadow of the body of Christ (Col 2:16-17) and that keeping actual years and days and months is error. I really think it is a reversion to law-keeping, which will not occur either now or in our future (Gal 4:10-11, 2 Cor 3:11,13), and these prophecies should not be naturalized.

My thoughts anyway.

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Originally Posted by HaShaliach

Therein lies the key, verse 26. It was in the sixth month (seventh at the latest) when Marry conceived. That would place the birth of Jesus around the third month (fourth at the latest) of the following year. Or, Jesus was most likely conceived during the month of Tishrei (September) and was born in the month of Tammuz (June).

We should remember is that in the Messiah's first advent, He fulfilled all of the Spring festivals and holy days, including Shavuot (aka, Pentecost). It is expected that upon His return He will fulfill the fall festivals and holy days, It is interesting to note that the observance of the feast of Tabernacles will be required by the entire world during the earthly rein of Christ.(Zechariah 14:16-19). The fall is also when the religious new year falls.

Now, we need to overlay, where possible, the time line of the birth of John the Baptist, there being a six month over lap.

Thanks, ,brother.

There are many theories never found spelled out in scripture. This reminds me of the week theory. Since Peter is alleged to say we should count one thousand years for each day, the days of the week in Genesis are meant to represent 7,000 years. First of all, Peter never said every reference to a day means one thousand years. He simply said that whether a prophecy takes a day after it is spoken to be fulfilled, or one thousand years, there is no difference. Time does not cause the prophecy to lessen in truth or effectiveness whether it is a day or one thousand years.

Well, the bible never said the week of Genesis foretells how long the earth will exist.

The same thing with the idea of the feasts. Yes, Jesus fulfilled the feasts in his firs t advent. And Pentecost was fulfilled. But where does the bible actually say that when Jesus comes back the other feasts will be fulfilled, and not before then? It is all conjecture. But men really take that seriously. As I indicated, I see the feasts all fulfilled spiritually!

[Trouvere]

Trumpets????

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

Trumpets????

The thing about the feast of trumpets is that the bible really does not say the purpose of it. Some THINK it refers to creation, but the bible does not say. It simply says ...

Leviticus 23:24 KJV Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.

Numbers 10:10 KJV Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your God: I am the LORD your God.

Numbers 29:1-6 KJV And in the seventh month, on the first day of the month, ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work: it is a day of blowing the trumpets unto you. (2) And ye shall offer a burnt offering for a sweet savour unto the LORD; one young bullock, one ram, and seven lambs of the first year without blemish: (3) And their meat offering shall be of flour mingled with oil, three tenth deals for a bullock, and two tenth deals for a ram, (4) And one tenth deal for one lamb, throughout the seven lambs: (5) And one kid of the goats for a sin offering, to make an atonement for you: (6) Beside the burnt offering of the month, and his meat offering, and the daily burnt offering, and his meat offering, and their drink offerings, according unto their manner, for a sweet savour, a sacrifice made by fire unto the LORD.

It simply announced the new year, as far as I can tell! There are lots of TRADITIONAL ideas that are not sound bible, though. Lord knows we have too much traditional and unbiblical ideas floating around based on no solid principle of interpretation. So we would have to consider the idea of a new year and blowing trumpets to kick it off to understand the application.

Of course, many think this refers to the second coming of Jesus where there is blowing of a trumpet associated with His coming in scripture. But, again, that is pure, pure conjecture alone. Nothing solid in the bible to correlate that. People will say, though, that since Christ fulfilled the spring feasts and Pentecost on those very days, then there must be a fulfillment on these fall feasts on the very days as well. And they, therefore, think Jesus will come on the first day of the Jewish new year of whatever year He does come. CONJECTURE!

I know a brother who delved into a lot of study about the feasts. his angle on it was the teaching of spiritual maturity that we find in the epistles.

I will gather some of his thoughts and present them here next.

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I put the info about feast of trumpets in its own self-entitled thread.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Sam

I've read stuff showing when the different "courses" of priests ministered and the timing was that Elizabeth probably got pregnant right afterward, then 6 months later Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit, and that would put the birth of Jesus around the time of the Feast of Tabernacles. This could be appropriate since His death coincided with Passover (1 Corinthians 5:7), His burial with unleavened bread, his resurrection with First Fruits (1 Corinthians 15:23), and His pouring out the Promise of the Father with Pentecost or Harvest. Some who teach this also believe that His second coming will be at Trumpets (the trump of God in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and Revelation 4:1)

During what time was Jerusalem destroyed in 70AD? Do we know?

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Preteristarchives.com has lots of dating of the destruction of Jerusalem.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Preteristarchives.com has lots of dating of the destruction of Jerusalem.

the question was Jeruselam destroyed around the time of the feast of trumpets or tabranacles?

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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

the question was Jeruselam destroyed around the time of the feast of trumpets or tabranacles?

Gonna make me look, eh? lol

Not sure without looking the dates on the archive. It was the same day of year as when it was destroyed by Babylon.

Here is what I found.

Josephus, a secular Jewish historian, witnessed the temple's destruction and observed the temple's burning occurred on the 10th day of the 5th Jewish month.

Josephus also noted that Babylon had burned Solomon's temple on the same date in prior history. Josephus wrote:

"Titus retired into the tower of Antonia, and resolved to storm the temple the next day, early in the morning, with his whole army, and to encamp round about the holy house; but, as for that house, God had for certain long ago doomed it to the fire; and now that fatal day was come, according to the revolution of ages; it was the tenth day of the month Lous [Av], upon which it was formerly burnt by the king of Babylon."(1)

This makes it two months before the Feast of trumpets which started the three part feast of tabernacles.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Gonna make me look, eh? lol

Not sure without looking the dates on the archive. It was the same day of year as when it was destroyed by Babylon.

Here is what I found.

Josephus, a secular Jewish historian, witnessed the temple's destruction and observed the temple's burning occurred on the 10th day of the 5th Jewish month.

Josephus also noted that Babylon had burned Solomon's temple on the same date in prior history. Josephus wrote:

"Titus retired into the tower of Antonia, and resolved to storm the temple the next day, early in the morning, with his whole army, and to encamp round about the holy house; but, as for that house, God had for certain long ago doomed it to the fire; and now that fatal day was come, according to the revolution of ages; it was the tenth day of the month Lous [Av], upon which it was formerly burnt by the king of Babylon."(1)

This makes it two months before the Feast of trumpets which started the three part feast of tabernacles.

Sorry to make you look I had a thought when I read this thread but it does not seem to have panned out lol
Thanks for checking though
God Bless